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  1. #31
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    The change to the MSQ was only made much later into the game, and yes I am aware of the situation back then.

    People here are trying to argue the rewards are based strictly on the cutscenes when its actually more specific to the new player experience to engage in the boss fights that ensues after them.

    Since the cutscenes are strictly designed with new players in mind, if there arent any, then why enforce with no options to all vets to watch the cutscenes.
    IIRC the rewards were increased when the cutscenes were made unskippable, and then a little bit later they were increased again because the first bribe increase was not large enough to get people to run the MSQ roulette with unskippable cutscenes on a regular basis.

    The developers cannot easily make the cutscenes unskippable only in some cases, so therefore they are made unskippable in all cases.
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  2. #32
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    tbh you can literally just afk throughout prat.

    Tag the first monsters that are never killed, teleport. You're in combat for the rest of the dungeon. Maybe someone goes back there to kill them using [Return] but eh you can't get reported for being afk.

    And if it's not prat you can just leave.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  3. #33
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    IIRC the rewards were increased when the cutscenes were made unskippable, and then a little bit later they were increased again because the first bribe increase was not large enough to get people to run the MSQ roulette with unskippable cutscenes on a regular basis.

    The developers cannot easily make the cutscenes unskippable only in some cases, so therefore they are made unskippable in all cases.
    It was increased twice to entice vets to help speed up the queue for the MSQ.

    No one is asking for the Cutscenes to be skipped with new players are present that wish to view the cutscenes and take part in the fights.

    Vets should not be punished in the event that that MSQ queue puts only vets together by the sake of rng, an option in this specific circumstance should be available to the players that wish to skip, they took the risk and chance and as a certain demographic of people say in this game, the DF pits you with anyone, but apparently people in this thread think vets should still be punished when done nothing wrong.
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  4. #34
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    It was increased twice to entice vets to help speed up the queue for the MSQ.

    No one is asking for the Cutscenes to be skipped with new players are present that wish to view the cutscenes and take part in the fights.

    Vets should not be punished in the event that that MSQ queue puts only vets together by the sake of rng, an option in this specific circumstance should be available to the players that wish to skip, they took the risk and chance and as a certain demographic of people say in this game, the DF pits you with anyone, but apparently people in this thread think vets should still be punished when done nothing wrong.
    vets only run the place for the rewards.

    if the rewards arent there why would you go there. period. so skipping the scenes is kind of moot at that point.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    tbh you can literally just afk throughout prat.

    Tag the first monsters that are never killed, teleport. You're in combat for the rest of the dungeon. Maybe someone goes back there to kill them using [Return] but eh you can't get reported for being afk.

    And if it's not prat you can just leave.
    People who do that are just infuriating. Luckily, I’ve only come across two players like that during MSQ and had no issues with vote kicking them.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    People who do that are just infuriating. Luckily, I’ve only come across two players like that during MSQ and had no issues with vote kicking them.
    Yeah I'm with you on that for most things. You can do prat with 2-3 people, haven't tested it with 1 person before. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Yeah I'm with you on that for most things. You can do prat with 2-3 people, haven't tested it with 1 person before. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
    no, sometimes its okay to hate the player lol
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Yeah I'm with you on that for most things. You can do prat with 2-3 people, haven't tested it with 1 person before. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
    It's only Prae, sure, but how you choose to handle yourself in that type of a situation does say quite a lot. I'm perfectly OK hating a lazy player, don't you worry.
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  9. #39
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    No one is asking for the Cutscenes to be skipped with new players are present that wish to view the cutscenes and take part in the fights.
    Imagine being the one new person in MSQ roulette, in a group of 7 other vets who now hate and resent you for being the sole cause of wasting their time with a bunch of long cutscenes. If they don't kick you immediately, or leave to try their luck with different group, they might just be rude to you or go AFK at the entrance until you give up and leave.

    You can't give people like this even an inch. If there is any slim possibility of abusing the system or getting a group that will let you skip the cutscenes, they will find it. Apparently, there are people now who force-quit their client so they can log back in, load into the room, and proceed to kill the boss while others are still in a cutscene.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    It's only Prae, sure, but how you choose to handle yourself in that type of a situation does say quite a lot. I'm perfectly OK hating a lazy player, don't you worry.
    Not sure how you derived anything off of a situation you assume I'm a part of.
    If I catch someone afking in one of my prat ones of course I'll accept a kick if it comes across my screen but I'm not delusional in not understanding that it really doesn't matter if they're afk or not.
    Also I don't do msq roulette and you won't catch me in one of those dungeons even if I get it from mentor roulette.
    Not mention you shouldn't use subjective terms like lazy because I could very easily say that everyone who doesn't log off to skip the cutscenes are "lazy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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