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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Yes, you want to find something to be upset about. That is all. You are the only one making the link they are the same. When I was clearly talking about all the research we have done thanks to LGBTQ community.
    No amount of research will ever make pedophilia valid, also it's just interesting how you bring up the LGBT over something like psychopathy but go off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    No amount of research will ever make pedophilia valid.
    Ah the classic deflection. Noone even said that. It is ok though. I don't mind teaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Ah the classic deflection. Noone even said that. It is ok though. I don't mind teaching.
    Right, so if it's not valid then stop defending it, nobody cares that psychopaths are born that way either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Right, so if it's not valid then stop defending it, nobody cares that psychopaths are born that way either.
    Um yes we do? Psychopaths who broke no laws, but have the urges we very much care about that and want to do more studies on behavioral issues. These people are who have not acted out on it are victims as well. Have you no heart?

    Kinda cruel stance to have. Oh you have pedo desires? You are the scum of the world even if you can't help it or never acted out on it. The fact that your body is wired like that? You need to be locked up. This is not the 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Um yes we do? Psychopaths who broke no laws, but have the urges we very much care about that and want to do more studies on behavioral issues. These people are who have not acted out on it are victims as well. Have you no heart?

    Kinda cruel stance to have. Oh you have pedo desires? You are the scum of the world even if you can't help it or never acted out on it. The fact that your body is wired like that? You need to be locked up. This is not the 90s.
    The ones that are disgusted by themselves deserve help, the rest.. well that's best left unsaid. No I don't have a heart for these people, if they embrace this kinda thing they're anything BUT victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    The ones that are disgusted by themselves deserve help, the rest.. well that's best left unsaid. No I don't have a heart for these people, if they embrace this kinda thing they're anything BUT victims.
    So they got to hate themselves for how they are born? Yes, because lets add more mental stress to these people who already struggle. Like I said heartless.

    Myself, they know right from wrong. They understand and should be getting help with it. Even though getting help they have to deal with people like you, even if they have great self control. They will be label as guilty no matter what. So not only is help not really that great right now because we just don't have enough understanding yet.

    We can all talk about it, but we don't know what it is like. How to live a normal life with such struggles. I refuse to label someone a bad person because life pick to wire them in a bad way. Only how they act on it is when I will judge, and no fake pictures, hentai, and such is not acting on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    So they got to hate themselves for how they are born? Yes, because lets add more mental stress to these people who already struggle. Like I said heartless.

    Myself, they know right from wrong. They understand and should be getting help with it. Even though getting help they have to deal with people like you, even if they have great self control. They will be label as guilty no matter what. So not only is help not really that great right now because we just don't have enough understanding yet.

    We can all talk about it, but we don't know what it is like. How to live a normal life with such struggles. I refuse to label someone a bad person because life pick to wire them in a bad way. Only how they act on it is when I will judge, and no fake pictures, hentai, and such is not acting on it.
    "struggle"
    and yes it is acting on it, imagine feeding and feeding that desire and acting like that's the right thing to do, even then since they have no attraction to grown people they could just nip the whole thing in the bud, literally.
    They quite literally never will be able to live a normal life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Um yes we do? Psychopaths who broke no laws, but have the urges we very much care about that and want to do more studies on behavioral issues. These people are who have not acted out on it are victims as well. Have you no heart?

    Kinda cruel stance to have. Oh you have pedo desires? You are the scum of the world even if you can't help it or never acted out on it. The fact that your body is wired like that? You need to be locked up. This is not the 90s.
    To be fair ASPD have just recently gotten more research done over the years and generally as someone with a diagnosis for the most part people have a hard time caring about those who just do not care.

    Which I get, it is also hard to get help when you personally just do not care either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasu View Post
    - Normalizing the sexual depiction of nude minors as long as they're not hyper-hyper realistic.
    I want to address this because I haven't heard anyone actually explain HOW nude mods for the twins, lalafels, etc. are a problem. What do you mean by normalizing it? Do you think if nude portrayals of Ryne exist it's going to turn normal people into pedophiles? Do you think Western society is going to start allowing the exploitation of real children if some random guys are allowed to stare at nude pictures of Ryne?

    Instead of making vague statements why don't you clarify what exactly it is you're worried about.

    My position is this: if a pedo can occupy and alleviate himself with fictional, digital imagery then great; it beats the hell out of the alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I want to address this because I haven't heard anyone actually explain HOW nude mods for the twins, lalafels, etc. are a problem. What do you mean by normalizing it? Do you think if nude portrayals of Ryne exist it's going to turn normal people into pedophiles? Do you think Western society is going to start allowing the exploitation of real children if some random guys are allowed to stare at nude pictures of Ryne?

    Instead of making vague statements why don't you clarify what exactly it is you're worried about.

    My position is this: if a pedo can occupy and alleviate himself with fictional, digital imagery then great; it beats the hell out of the alternatives.
    not all alternatives.
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