Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Zsolen]

Then report those that do not and call it a day. I will say if by walking up and not care about consent are those random ERP whispers or propositions. Then this could be viewed as harassment and worth a report.

This is an out of context response. The initial point was people don't exactly ask for people's ages. They just begin their process of degeneracy, not caring if the person ERPs or not or is an adult or not. People assume minors always initiate the contact. They don't.

[Awha]

This is an out of context response. The initial point was people don't exactly ask for people's ages. They just begin their process of degeneracy, not caring if the person ERPs or not or is an adult or not. People assume minors always initiate the contact. They don't.

I do not think anyone has said minors are the only ones initiating the contact. What many have said was minors have been known to lie about their age.

End of the day suggestion still stands report it.

[Zsolen]

I do not think anyone has said minors are the only ones initiating the contact. What many have said was minors have been known to lie about their age.

That would make it a problem.

[Awha]

That would make it a problem.

A problem for the kids that are lying about their age. Sorry I do not feel much sympathy for a minor that willfully misleads an adult over the internet then cries foul if / when they get caught. That is a problem for the parents, not the community. I fail to see how getting rid of the mods will alter any of this, ERP will still happen, NSFW mods will always exist, it seem people are mostly upset because it has slightly been brought out into the public, but one would have to live under a rock very deep under the earth's crust to not know of the existence of such things within an MMO.

[Zsolen]

A problem for the kids that are lying about their age. Sorry I do not feel much sympathy for a minor that willfully misleads an adult over the internet then cries foul if / when they get caught. That is a problem for the parents, not the community. I fail to see how getting rid of the mods will alter any of this, ERP will still happen, NSFW mods will always exist, it seem people are mostly upset because it has slightly been brought out into the public, but one would have to live under a rock very deep under the earth's crust to not know of the existence of such things within an MMO.

People being approached and w/o consent are being ERPed with. If you aren't going to be serious, just leave the thread.

Also, it's still the adult's fault even if a teen is willing. People still push even when they know it is a teen, because the teens tells them. The groomer meme exists in this game for a reason.

Just leave the thread until you are willing actually be honest about this and stop pretending this is all the teens.

[Awha]

People being approached and w/o consent are being ERPed with. If you aren't going to be serious, just leave the thread.

Also, it's still the adult's fault even if a teen is willing. People still push even when they know it is a teen, because the teens tells them. The groomer meme exists in this game for a reason.

Just leave the thread until you are willing actually be honest about this and stop pretending this is all the teens.

If an adult pushes when they know it is a minor once again report, if someone approaches you for ERP and you do not like that sort of thing report. I am sorry I have already said adults that willfully interact with minors knowing they are minors are a problem and that is when you use the report feature and depending on the degree possibly report it to your local authorities.

What I am saying things are already put into place to combat such things, though just like many of our laws they are reactive not proactive. If people want a more proactive solution that solely is placed on the individual or in some cases the parents.

Tbh you should stop putting this all on the adults in terms on online interactions if a minor does lie to an adult and the adult can prove such then in most places legal action will not be taken against the adult when it comes to online interactions, cause the intent was not to interact with a minor. They were operating under the grounds that the person in question was an adult.

In the end what do you honestly expect anyone to do that would fully proactively protect people from NSFW content and ERP propositions?

[JoyfulSong]

This thread needs to be shut down. At this point it's just a conversation of the obvious -- children do play this game, yes there are some absolutely monstrous (I hesitate to use the word people for those who actively and knowingly and willingly do these things, given I myself was a victim of child abuse for more than a decade, but, lacking any other terminology--) people taking advantage of that, but mods? Little to do with the issue at large.

The tags on this thread are cringier than the actual content. Imagine thinking defending NSFW mods = pedo-apologist.
Now, anybody who knows me, knows I don't really jive with the ERP scene, play with mods, or do anything NSFW outside of my own bedroom. But I can also respect that people have needs and wants, and a healthy, safe outlet is perfectly fine. When it's harmless.

"bOo HoO pEopLe ArE pErVeRts" -- people have been perverts since the beginning of forever. People will continue to be perverts. In fact, as time progresses, things will only get more perverted as things become normalized -- or are you chill with not wearing T-Shirts to keep in accordance with Victorian English standards?
Everything in life, the universe, and existence is all about a matter of degree. Doing kinky stuff with a consenting adult? Perfectly fine. Grooming a child to do those things with you? VERY OBVIOUSLY NOT OKAY. (Imho, if you are a young person playing the game, you shouldn't have these sorts of mods, but I'm not their parents, and frankly neither are any of you. If you know of a young person with these sorts of mods, I recommend talking to them like a person and explaining the dangers in a calm and polite, non-condescending manner, instead of flipping your shit.)

Hell this literally started because two people (Asmond and the modder in question) wanted attention. That's what they always want. Congratulations, you have given them precisely the nonsense they were fishing for. We only know she was fishing for attention because she POSTED the MOST CRINGE "apology" on the planet on her Discord, and that got leaked onto twitter because she is, in fact, an idiot. It was agonizingly obvious she was fishing for attention. If you don't already know about the mountain of red flags from Asmond...idk google it. [No I don't condone people harassing him, but yes he's a douche. No I don't believe he's playing a persona or doing a bit. Asmond does things for one reason: attention. You think he covered this topic because he cared? Of course not. It's clickbait.]

People commenting on this thread are out here lumping Modders with RPers with ERPers, and that's just very incorrect -- each group has its own issues and benefits. There's plenty of folks going about their business, running ACT, making interesting things like makeups and tattoos and outfits and hairstyles (and yes, even naked things) that are doing zero harm to people.
Everything is a spectrum, including mods.

[RitsukoSonoda]

If an adult pushes when they know it is a minor once again report, if someone approaches you for ERP and you do not like that sort of thing report. I am sorry I have already said adults that willfully interact with minors knowing they are minors are a problem and that is when you use the report feature and depending on the degree possibly report it to your local authorities.

What I am saying things are already put into place to combat such things, though just like many of our laws they are reactive not proactive. If people want a more proactive solution that solely is placed on the individual or in some cases the parents.

Tbh you should stop putting this all on the adults in terms on online interactions if a minor does lie to an adult and the adult can prove such then in most places legal action will not be taken against the adult when it comes to online interactions, cause the intent was not to interact with a minor. They were operating under the grounds that the person in question was an adult.

In the end what do you honestly expect anyone to do that would fully proactively protect people from NSFW content and ERP propositions?

Outside of having someone monitor the minor 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year with 366 on leap years nothing can be done to fully proactively protect people from that type of online content other than going someplace where the internet doesn't exist. Sounds like you're still dealing with people that want everyone else to essentially raise their child for them. This IMO stems from the spreading of people that don't want responsibility the moment it becomes inconvenient and don't follow rules, laws, regulations if they find it inconvenient unless they think they'll get caught an punished. And even then if the punishment isn't severe enough they'll do it anyway.

Some food for thought. The more effort someone puts into trying to hide things from someone the more curious that person is going to get about the thing you're trying to keep from them. This effect is even stronger in children as they tend to be curious in general. As such it would probably be better overall if parents were just upfront with their children and simply made sure to properly explain these things so they're understood instead of just trying to hide things from them or cover them up with ridiculous made up stories. Most children are far smarter than people give them credit for and will understand how to handle even things like NSFW and ERP activities encountered online if someone actually takes the time to provide that knowledge to them instead of trying to distract them with whatever brain melting activity is popular at the time in their age demographic so they stay quiet and out of the way.

[Roeshel]

No, it's bad parenting when a parent isn't actually monitoring what their child is doing on the internet.

You actually can't monitor what your child is doing on the internet 24/7. You either have to be unemployed or have some serious internet tracking skills, some hidden cameras installed in the room which the kid is eventually going to figure out, and other crazy stuff. It is easy to delete the history of browsing, there is also an incognito mode for chrome. All you can do is talk with them and hope that they understand. The one million punishments some parents think that they do something to change their children for the better does nothing but to turn them against you.

[Roeshel]

So it is bad parenting when a child lies about their age but it is okay to break rules because they are not enforced?

Children lying about their age is common sense. Age is private information. People shouldn't be asking about it.