FC owning 12 plots

[worldofneil]

You and I both know that an exploit (in gaming terms) means getting a gain (or advantage) through utilizing a system in an unexpected (and often unintended) manner that is later fixed to prevent the acquisition of that gain. More often than not, this gets patched within a month of finding (at least it should), sometimes it takes years.

Please tell me one time that SE has taken years to fix an exploit? Things like people being able to friend their alts (happened twice now) or the whole Ungarmax thing were fixed in days (admittedly Ungarmax was reported months before, but wasn't actually fixed until it became widely know, but that was still months, not years).

The only time I can recall SE intentionally taking a while to fix something not working as intended was Blue Mage and when people were solo levelling it by quickly changing job to get the exp on Blue Mage. They even specifically addressed this and said how they wouldn't be able to fix it within a reason timeframe and therefore wouldn't be taking action against anyone using that method, even though they were prefer they didn't. This was also fixed within months (4.5 to 5.0), not years.

But FC housing? It was listed under temporary changes and it was a temporary change. They've never mentioned it since January 2018 and it's been over *3* years.

What I find interesting is this line:

You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account.

Yes, on a webpage that isn't even on the main page of the Lodestone (you have to click Play Guide first, where as the main page has lots of links to other mini sites).

It's also on a webpage that isn't even referenced in the game, where you actually buy the house.

If SE wanted you to enforce 1 FC house per service account, per world, they would. At the very least they'd point you to the housing guide page or actually say something in-game about how it's only intended for you to have one FC house... but they don't.

So you can rage at this FC who owns 12 plots or whatever, but for all you know they haven't even seen that webpage or even been made aware that at one (very brief) time, there was a limitation. They went the buy the house, the game let them.

I know you want to believe the site because it says what you want it to say, but clearly it's out of date and this is all working as intended.

Maybe housing on this game will always be a problem, but you cannot go after the players that earned something fairly using the rules of the game (which are still the rules of the game...)

That's a false equivalency since there are infinite titles and finite properties.

That's not true I'm afraid.

Saint of the Firmament was limited to the top 12 on each crafter/gathering profession (per server) and Beatus of the Firmament was the top 100. You only had 3 (or 4?) tries to get this and now it's gone for good.

[TwistedTea]

If SE wanted you to enforce 1 FC house per service account, per world, they would. At the very least they'd point you to the housing guide page or actually say something in-game about how it's only intended for you to have one FC house... but they don't.

So you can rage at this FC who owns 12 plots or whatever, but for all you know they haven't even seen that webpage or even been made aware that at one (very brief) time, there was a limitation. They went the buy the house, the game let them.

To be very clear, the owner of those houses on Coeurl, did not placard camp for those houses. So they did not deprive other players from the opportunity of camping the placard and buying from the system.

They purchased FC houses and relocations from players who willingly exchanged their houses for gil.

[Besame]

To be very clear, the owner of those houses on Coeurl, did not placard camp for those houses. So they did not deprive other players from the opportunity of camping the placard and buying from the system.

They purchased FC houses and relocations from players who willingly exchanged their houses for gil.

Actually, the original 5 cluster of empty small plots where I purchased my first house was bought by the same person plot by plot, all at the same time for as he said, "I like to deco". I stayed in that small house maybe a year and never saw deco items on any of those plots, simply a shell house, locked up and the aetheryte.

[TwistedTea]

Actually, the original 5 cluster of empty small plots where I purchased my first house was bought by the same person plot by plot, all at the same time for as he said, "I like to deco". I stayed in that small house maybe a year and never saw deco items on any of those plots, simply a shell house, locked up and the aetheryte.

I think you're mistaking LB Ward 12 for something else.

If you were in the housing discord, you'd know that the owner of those houses bought the houses from other players for gil.

[Besame]

I think you're mistaking LB Ward 12 for something else.

If you were in the housing discord, you'd know that the owner of those houses bought the houses from other players for gil.

I stated that they "LOOKED" like my old neighborhood not that it was ward 12. They may or may not of been, I cannot recall my old ward number. I think thou doth protest too much about the exact occurrences/stats/ward. Hmmm, deco much?? Oh, wait...

[Almagnus1]

Please tell me one time that SE has taken years to fix an exploit?

Do game exploits only occur in FFXIV?

But FC housing? It was listed under temporary changes and it was a temporary change. They've never mentioned it since January 2018 and it's been over *3* years.

I think that's a large part of this issue... SE is not actively putting in the dev time into housing and it's a system that has generated a lot of frustration. Thinks are starting to change, so we're basically in a holding pattern until we get more information from SE, as I'm assuming more of the same until stated otherwise.

If SE wanted you to enforce 1 FC house per service account, per world, they would. At the very least they'd point you to the housing guide page or actually say something in-game about how it's only intended for you to have one FC house... but they don't.

I wonder if part of this is because of cultural differences, where the policy is distinctly Japanese and other players need to have the punishment in place and Yoshi-P doesn't want to be forced into that.

Maybe housing on this game will always be a problem, but you cannot go after the players that earned something fairly using the rules of the game (which are still the rules of the game...)

This has been a system that has seen dramatic change in demand and while supply has increased, it hasn't as much. A large part of the issue here is that around a 20% of all FCs with houses worldwide have less than three members in them, and that's a pretty big minority of the houses.

That's not true I'm afraid.

Saint of the Firmament was limited to the top 12 on each crafter/gathering profession (per server) and Beatus of the Firmament was the top 100. You only had 3 (or 4?) tries to get this and now it's gone for good.

Actually it is but for different reasons. You're still comparing a time limited thing (that will likely never be allowed back in FFXIV) to something that isn't bound by time. While definitely not recommended (nor advised) but if you go all EVE Online to the home owner, you'll be able to get that house a lot faster than waiting them out.