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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    According to some people here I should be banned. I don't harass people ever, but making those horrible jokes in the first place is harassment according to some. I hate myself for continuing to be here.
    You really don't want to understand it, huh?

    I REALLY DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET THEIR ACCOUNT SUSPENDED FOR JOKES. BUT IF YOU JOKE TOO MUCH TOWARDS THE WRONG PEOPLE THEY MIGHT HIT THE REPORT BUTTON AND SEND YOUR ACCOUNT INTO THE DIGITAL OBLIVION!

    You should get banned =/= You can get banned

    I was merely telling people that they can get punished for this stuff if they push it too far which let us be fair many people do on a daily base. Just cause i tell you you can get punished for it cause rules doesn't mean i want that to happen. I just tell people that it is a risk and they might wake up someday with a not so neat email and their account being suspended.

    Dunno if that is worth the joke but it's something everyone has to decide for their own. And it's not like SE just slaps people on the wirst and gives them a three days ban and that's it. The account if you get reported will be marked for lifetime and that means the next offenses might cause a termination of your account. Again that is nothing i want for other players since a joke, which you clearly don't understand since idk how often i wrote i don't want anyone to get banned for this, but it's a potential risk you take.

    What harassment is and what a joke lies in the eye of the other party. And it seems you fail to understand this simple fact. Some people might be alright with hearing the same joke thousand times a day. Some might not be alright with that. Some might like a whisper telling them how delicious they look, i kinda don't like tall folk with a vore fetish on lalafell but everyone has their own kinks. And if you like to eat lalafell i mean sure, good for you, it's not what i would call a vanilla fetish but...yeah...

    Gosh feels like i am talking to a vaulthry which is tripping on meol.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-21-2021 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Edit: I mean in what world is "I commited crimes but i didn't got catched yet so i encourage others to do the same" a good thing. Maybe grow up, it's not that bad to give a shoot about others, try it out. Maybe you get some friends then and don't have to post such things on the forums.
    I committed crimes by making bad jokes according to you. I hope you can be specific and tell me exactly what was offensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    I don't try to enforce these rules, i just tell people that they exist. Dunno what problem you have with that. Do you feel guilty or something?
    You should leave the moderation to the actual GM's, that's just my opinion though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    But that is exactly why NA is so full of trolls etc, cause they use "free speech" as a cover for toxicity. Which might be good or bad i don't judge about that here tbh. EU then is a bit different, some speech over here in many countries is prohibited by law, so people are a bit nicer to each other. And JP basically has no shout chat trolls and no unrest we see in NA or EU at all.
    Both the EU and NA have trolls. What you are doing is pretending to be the law instead of admitting you are part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I committed crimes by making bad jokes according to you. I hope you can be specific and tell me exactly what was offensive.



    You should leave the moderation to the actual GM's, that's just my opinion though.



    Both the EU and NA have trolls. What you are doing is pretending to be the law instead of admitting you are part of the problem.
    1. There is a reason why the sentence was written with quotation marks. It's a analogy. Let's say you call a Elezen everyday a giraffe/dhamel. Let's say this is against the chat rules, just for this moment let us say it's not allowed. And people are alright with that joke, don't care. You never get "catched for your crime" basically. But that doesn't mean that someday someone might not take offense in stuff you say and report you. As i said it's a risk people should be aware of which leads to...

    2. Telling people about the rules isn't moderation. I can tell you that you aren't allowed to drink hard alcohol in public and still not report you to the next cop. Some people actually appreciate to learn about the rules of the world they live in, especially cause SE don't really promotes these rules which leads to many people thinking that they are safe spamming holy in the hub and then getting banned for it. And yes i know a player personally which got banned for this. What you ask for is literally "Let the children put their finger into the power outlet, yeah they might die but they will learn it themself.". Which in my opinion is the most unsocial thing ever, how can you literally not care about people and tell them that they might risk their account?

    3. Both NA and EU have trolls. 100%. Never denied that. Not at all. But there are reasons why EU is closer to JP culture than to NA. Just visit a hub on EU and on NA and on JP and look at the shout chat and you know exactly what i am talking about. I don't say that NA culture is wrong, not at all. Your absolute freedom of speech and that stuff and how every speech should be tolerated can be also good. Doesn't mean the game bends to these rules tho. SE makes the rules and it's a japanese company and thus stays in a bit of conflict with the culture of trolling and shitposting, which i said is also ok. But you play by the house rules not by your countries standards of "say whatever you want".
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-21-2021 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Gosh feels like i am talking to a vaulthry which is tripping on meol.
    Dare to make jokes about my god. This is offensive >: (


    OnTopic: Is it ok to /pet lalafells? >: )
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