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  1. #61
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    I am honestly surprised some people are annoyed by it. Lala's have always been seen as the cute and funny race and have been the subject of silly humor ever since the existence of FF14.

    I am currently a Lalafell and think it's hilarious whenever someone gives me a headpat or does some other silly thing around me. Hell, I encourage it by doing silly things myself, being a Lala just brings out the humor in you.

    Am I offended by any of it, hell no. My character is NOT me. It is a pile of pixels on the screen that I happen to control. Who I am in the game is not who I am in real life, so tease away, I will just keep dousing people with my insufferable cuteness! LOL
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  2. #62
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    i‘m sorry but people that take offense that people make jokes of a non existing fantasy race in a fantasy world need to take a break and stop playing the game for a certain time. it’s not healthy when obviously meme jokes affect you emotionally to such a degree.
    identifying with a game is good but there are boundaries you should set for yourself to keep a healthy mind.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i‘m sorry but people that take offense that people make jokes of a non existing fantasy race in a fantasy world need to take a break and stop playing the game for a certain time. it’s not healthy when obviously meme jokes affect you emotionally to such a degree.
    identifying with a game is good but there are boundaries you should set for yourself to keep a healthy mind.
    The need to tell these jokes and finding joy in harassing other players, be it towards whatever race or for whatever reason, is also not a sign of a healthy mind. If you tell the same player again and again (and told by multiple people) that they are silly and stupid, day after day. Sure someone might break under that.

    But i actually agree here, you should take not everything so seriously. But every human being is different and i don't push the joy of others into the abyss to make some stupid jokes about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I mean, to be fair, you're basically being the spoilsport in a thread of mostly jokes, and then reinforced that by making another thread specifically about the rules. I wouldn't exactly call that rude, but I'm hoping your teacher gave you the gold star you were after, since you could point out the rules all the bad kids are breaking.
    We focus more on education over here and being decent human beings than giving people worthless awards to boost their ego. Maybe that's where the problem lies. People, ESPECIALLY on NA are way to full of themself. No wonder NA were the birthplace of karens and chads.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-20-2021 at 08:27 PM.

  4. #64
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    Light teasing sure without being a borderline creep or racist kinda person also just do not hug or pet me while I am crafting.

    Aside those stuff, people have been pretty ok on the whole "teasing", you know the typical baked potatoes joke with Ancient Flares, eat your potatoes with WoD etc. Every instance or place there has to be a fun lalafell joke but I do not mind those, they are fun
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    We focus more on education over here and being decent human beings than giving people worthless awards to boost their ego. Maybe that's where the problem lies. People, ESPECIALLY on NA are way to full of themself. No wonder NA were the birthplace of karens and chads.
    i‘m surprised you get offended because some people make trivial funny jokes about a fantasy race but at the same time you generalize and belittle another region. you seem more of a karen to me than the one‘s you are accusing.
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    It is a fictional race why would anyone get offended? It makea zero sense.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i‘m surprised you get offended because some people make trivial funny jokes about a fantasy race but at the same time you generalize and belittle another region. you seem more of a karen to me than the one‘s you are accusing.
    Dunno if you read what i wrote but yes. I don't see this problem on JP and neither on EU as much as it is a problem on NA for many players. Weird, right?

    And as i said before, i am not offended by any of this. But some people are. And i think, especially NA, do show really how great and social they are by pushing always heavensward with their need to make fun of others.

    And no matter how much you say the words "fantasy race" it doesn't make it less toxic. xD But speaks for you that you defend toxicity. It's a joke if both parties can laugh about it. Which isn't the case clearly in many cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    It is a fictional race why would anyone get offended? It makea zero sense.
    It does make sense tho. People define themself over the choices they make. If you hear the whole day long that the choices you made are wrong and you are stupid and silly and less worth for it than others it damages peoples honor and thus feelings. Sure we might now say "Well low selfesteem then" but this is a cultural problem, again. Especially with western/NA players. Ridicule and even hate towards small races is a almost inherently western thing, which is crazy if you think about. Same as the need to make fun on others costs.

    But that is exactly why NA is so full of trolls etc, cause they use "free speech" as a cover for toxicity. Which might be good or bad i don't judge about that here tbh. EU then is a bit different, some speech over here in many countries is prohibited by law, so people are a bit nicer to each other. And JP basically has no shout chat trolls and no unrest we see in NA or EU at all.

    So yeah, i don't say that any of these ways is better than the other one. I also have a fairly dark humor and heck i offended more people in my life than most other players i bet. But this game is from a japanese company. So at the end of the day we all live or "die" by their rules and standards. Only cause NA has a free speech over anything thing going on doesn't mean this is a thing that is or will be tolerated in a community that inhabits players from so many different cultures.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-20-2021 at 09:51 PM.

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    Can we really attribute this as being "toxic" if the offended party is taking offense over a fictional race especially one that looks more like something you would find in a toy store.

    I do not like to use the term snowflake but this situation seems to be just that in the case of getting offended by such things. Outrage for the sake of sake outrage is silly.
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  9. #69
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    In all seriousness, the only thing I take issue with is just how ancient this community's jokes are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Dunno if you read what i wrote but yes. I don't see this problem on JP and neither on EU as much as it is a problem on NA for many players. Weird, right?

    And as i said before, i am not offended by any of this. But some people are. And i think, especially NA, do show really how great and social they are by pushing always heavensward with their need to make fun of others.

    And no matter how much you say the words "fantasy race" it doesn't make it less toxic. xD But speaks for you that you defend toxicity. It's a joke if both parties can laugh about it. Which isn't the case clearly in many cases.
    a problem of what? i‘m sorry i just don‘t see it. in toxicity level? i don‘t think so personally, EU can be pretty toxic too. i‘ve just witnessed you charging full on NA for some reason, like it is the only toxic place? kind of generalizing and belittling them, which i think is a rather toxic trait in itself but hey we agree to disagree i guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post

    It does make sense tho. People define themself over the choices they make. If you hear the whole day long that the choices you made are wrong and you are stupid and silly and less worth for it than others it damages peoples honor and thus feelings. Sure we might now say "Well low selfesteem then" but this is a cultural problem, again. Especially with western/NA players. Ridicule and even hate towards small races is a almost inherently western thing, which is crazy if you think about. Same as the need to make fun on others costs.

    But that is exactly why NA is so full of trolls etc, cause they use "free speech" as a cover for toxicity. Which might be good or bad i don't judge about that here tbh. EU then is a bit different, some speech over here in many countries is prohibited by law, so people are a bit nicer to each other. And JP basically has no shout chat trolls and no unrest we see in NA or EU at all.
    i don‘t think any of this reflects what the OP was refering to? you seem to make an elephant out of a fly. but again, we agree to disagree.

    cheers~
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