Pulling During Cutscene

[Eris4494]

The best is when tank starts pulling or keeps pulling when healer is in a cutscene or dead and causes the whole party to wipe because of it.

[MiaShino]

The best is when tank starts pulling or keeps pulling when healer is in a cutscene or dead and causes the whole party to wipe because of it.

They do so because they are able to. Many of these tanks are often playing poorly though which causes much confusion.

It reminds me of another story involving friends! Boy does our luck seem bad or something..

There was a tank in Tam-Tara who only did small pulls and would keep moving the pack (WoW style chain pulling). Both friends were on dragoon and because they kept moving the mobs around could not keep attacking without sprint. For any who do not know this, attacking moving enemies as melee in FF14 can be feist inducing due to server tick rate. The mobs are next to you on your screen but are actually not according to the server. To elaborate, no they were not "wall pulling". They would engage one group, wait for one mob to die then start another pull and repeat.

She asked them to wait until one group is dead before moving them because it was preventing her from attacking. The tank responds with "No time" ... They then engaged the mind flayer while two others were watching the cutscene.

After reading this I am beginning to see alignment between group that is okay with ejecting sprouts from cutscenes and downright terrible gameplay. Here I thought I was the "toxic" one who only wishes for "speedruns". Now I am thinking perhaps it is more of an undiagnosed narcissism problem.

Another bit more directed towards original post and I am not saying it is acceptable to spew vitriol at others buuuuuut. Imagine being that sprout enjoying the story and going into a dungeon for the first time. You are learning how to play but your team is full of donkeys, the run is frustrating because the tank cannot maintain aggro and you keep being nearly killed. Ooooorrrr they are moving mobs around so you cannot attack and doing other disruptive things. You finally make it through and are presented with a neat cutscene when the words "Battle has commenced, you will be locked out of the fight in fifteen seconds" pops up in the center of your cutscene.

Your first thought is not probably going to be "Gee golly after this abysmal experience I sure am glad my team left me here to start the fight without me! I am having soooo much of the fun right now! This game is great!"

You may be experiencing frustration towards your team and that miiiight be the tipping point. You should not insult the person but there is understanding when it occurs especially if the offending player was making the run more difficult on top of being impatient. If this then occurs in every dungeon you do following, you may not be so kind the next fifteen times.

New players are attempting to enjoy the game too.. getting yeeted out of cutscenes or spawned into the wrong place during alliance raids that are already pretty confusing for them is not conducive to having fun. Then comes the "4 on pad!" "No one on pads again kek w" "Alliance X get on the damn pad". Well they might you see but two thirds of the alliance was telewarped into Zone 1 because someone pulled early soooo..

[TaleraRistain]

New players are attempting to enjoy the game too.. getting yeeted out of cutscenes or spawned into the wrong place during alliance raids that are already pretty confusing for them is not conducive to having fun. Then comes the "4 on pad!" "No one on pads again kek w" "Alliance X get on the damn pad". Well they might you see but two thirds of the alliance was telewarped into Zone 1 because someone pulled early soooo..

Ugh, jeez, I remind people in alliance chat every single time that we can wipe if they early pull there and why and they still do it. Not the new folks. It's always an impatient vet. Gotten the giants I don't know how many times.

But maybe we need that instead of unskippable cutscenes. Someone pulls before everyone is in the arena and another mob spawns and wipes the floor with them. Make it untargetable and able to one-shot everyone in there. People definitely don't early pull a second time after we wipe to the giants in LotA so could be time for some tough love in the rest of the game since people can't be polite on their own.

A lot of people in this thread are pretty much saying "SE, I can't be trusted to be nice to sprouts on my own. Please give me no choice". And I can't say I would blame SE if they listened.

[MiaShino]

It's always an impatient vet.

The number of times this is most true is umm, staggering.

What should happen when inspecting party members; "Ohhh, this player has most jobs at level 80. They will know what they are doing and might even help me! They went through the story too so they will want me to enjoy it like they have! Yay!"

What actually occurs when inspecting party members now; "Ugh.. another player with mostly level 80 jobs. This is going to be a long slog of run and I should be prepared. They are probably going to be rude too especially if I dare give advice."

90 percent of the time we are correct.. It is pleasant surprise when we are not.

More story time! My partners pops and their partner were doing their Toto run. The tank was not aoeing, getting lost, running into walls and sometimes not even attacking. Right clicking them reveals, dun dun dun six jobs at level 80 and a bunch at 70 ish. They also engaged the final boss without waiting..

Two other family members queue into Sastasha Hard with a sprout tank, only Warrior leveled to 50 and nothing else. This little lala proceeds to wall pull the entire dungeon and it was one of their fastest runs yet.. especially with dual mechanist aoe spam. This player waited too if anyone fell behind for any reason.

The run tends to go faster if half of the party is not feisty so if they truly wish to "not have time wasted" perhaps they should be playing better no? Maybe not botch up the Atmos fight so we wipe? Bueller?