I wish we had a shared subscription

[Skivvy]

It's not bundled pricing - when you pay your sub, you're paying for access to both WoW Classic and Retail WoW. Full stop, you just pay $15/mo. So essentially regardless of whether you want to or not, you're paying for WoW Classic AND Retail. Which is what wishing we had a shared sub like WoW Retail/Classic would entail - whether you want to or not, you're paying for both FFXI and FFXIV if you went that route.

Ahhh, yeah, I can see that not going over too well with XI/XIV. I'm down for some combo deal, but a single price like that doesn't seem like it would make sense at this s time. They are vastly different games, and while XI has nowhere near the amount of subs as XIV, it seems to be holding steady all by itself.

[PMSJordan]

Id love it. Used to play it on Xbox 360 yrs ago before they decommissioned that version. I was super casual though mostly fished up moat carp and leveled alts bit I enjoyed it.

It would be super cool if they did do it for the 20th anniversary. Would make me very happy.

[Jin-]

I would try ff 11 if it was. But I am also not really fussed either way.

Aelin! :O

On topic, i would try aswell

[Sotaris]

Ahhh, yeah, I can see that not going over too well with XI/XIV. I'm down for some combo deal, but a single price like that doesn't seem like it would make sense at this s time. They are vastly different games, and while XI has nowhere near the amount of subs as XIV, it seems to be holding steady all by itself.

Back in 2012 it was the most profitable game ever made by Square Enix. I don't know if FF14 has surpassed that but I would imagine so? But that it still makes profit, that's a certain given the low running cost and still a good active community.

https://www.ffxiah.com/database

This is just a guesstamate from the FFXI AH website, which for those who isn't a FF11 veteran is the biggest resource website that has AH history and other features.
Minimum FFXI income: $171,941.00/month ($2,063,292.00/year) from 6380 accounts

This doesn't include any extra services you have on your account (like Mog Wardrobe = extra inventory space)

[Bearded]

They are totally different games - not like WoW Retail and WoW Classic. I have zero interest in FFXI and little desire for mu subscription to include access to that thanks very much.

[PMSJordan]

They are totally different games - not like WoW Retail and WoW Classic. I have zero interest in FFXI and little desire for mu subscription to include access to that thanks very much.

That's fair. Not everyone has to have interest in playing FFXI. However, based off your 2nd comment I don't really see the harm in it being included free in a subscription. You may not want to play it all, but some others would. If it was included its not like you would be forced to play it.

[worldofneil]

maybe even a combination deal on the subscription. Such as subscribing to both on one sub for an extra few dollars a month.

This actually WAS a thing, for 5 months, back in 2012:

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/topics/ffxiv/

Someone already mentioned the Hermes' Shoes, but you also saved $5.95/month for the promotional period if you had subscriptions to both XI and XIV.

Unfortunately I can't really see them doing it again though, it's just not in their interest. They know all too well that if someone wants to play both XI and XIV they will pay for both.

XI is also drastically smaller that what it once was, so it seems reasonable to assume they've scaled the hardware back as well. They're not likely to want to scale that back up again for an MMO that they don't really develop for (they keep it running, but that's pretty much it).

[Skivvy]

That's fair. Not everyone has to have interest in playing FFXI. However, based off your 2nd comment I don't really see the harm in it being included free in a subscription. You may not want to play it all, but some others would. If it was included its not like you would be forced to play it.

If they were to emulate the WoW structure, would there be an increase to the base pricing? I can't imagine a good portion of XIV's playerbase wants to play XI, so if this came with a price increase, you're going to have unhappy players on your hands. If there is no price increase, then they are essentially throwing out extra money that they're currently making off of XI as a standalone.

[ViolaLance]

Even if they did a FFXIV + XI share situation... Didn't they merge servers in FFXI a few moons ago?
Been a while, would love to log in and see how far I would get now with my PUP/BLU but doubt even Kujata exists anymore, probably got merged with Midg or Leviathan.

So... a fun thought to think if they did do it.

[PMSJordan]

If they were to emulate the WoW structure, would there be an increase to the base pricing? I can't imagine a good portion of XIV's playerbase wants to play XI, so if this came with a price increase, you're going to have unhappy players on your hands. If there is no price increase, then they are essentially throwing out extra money that they're currently making off of XI as a standalone.

The WoW version doesn't increase your subscription at all. Which would be nice. However, if money is a concern SE could also make an *optional* subscription that includes both for a few dollars more a month. I bet more people would be willing to play FFXI if that was an option. So in regards to money the increase in people choosing that optional sub would most likely even out or surpass the money they make on only FFXI subs based on the current player base there.