Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
No. Because I just don't want to do raid content. I raided for years in WOW to the point I have an aversion.
The 24 mans are not really raids. They're rather simple, and we have an actual roulette for them people do daily. An average 24-man with a decent group can take 30 minutes (Syrcus Tower can take 8 minutes if the team is good).

Compare that to Savage raids which less than 10% of the playerbase have ever done, that will never have any kind of roulette, that are constantly treated as completely optional that give no real rewards outside of better gear (which is unneeded in most endgame content), an extra orchestrion roll for the extra final boss form for the last raid of the expansion, and some exclusive mounts that you can wait until you can unsync the fights for. These fights can take people days to clear the first time compared to the 2-3 hours for a clear of a 24 man on the first week (under an hour in subsequent weeks).

That is the difference between a 24 man and an actual raid.

Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
They're raids. A zerg rolls through the instance and kills stuff.
When I did CT and Ivalice to unlock content, there was a small core team who carried the rest of the team, who was dead on the ground most of the time.

Call it dungeon, raid, whatever. That's not fun content to me.
People should not be dead in CT (outside of World of Darkness), especially not Syrcus Tower, which is the easiest 24 man in the entire game.