Harassment+death threats allowed...warning for thing I didn't do upheld?

[Ozalius]

Put yourself on busy or search if you can block PM in your setting, no PM anymore, sorry...

[LianaThorne]

Hiya, someone here who has actually dealt with cyber crimes.

1. If you are in the US and being threatened across state lines, it can be considered a federal offense. You are fully in the right to go to the police/a lawyer with your proof. Just be aware, they will probably ask for more information/proof to gauge the entire situation.

2. To the people telling this person to "not worry" because the odds of the person doing it are slim: please stop. I've met people who have had their internet stalkers show up in their town. Yes it is slim but it still happens. It really depends on how unstable the person is.

3. A more usual form of attack in these situations is pizza delivery showing up at your house or prank phone calls. Don't panic if this happens, just send the food back and ignore the calls.

Your best bet tho is to go to a lawyer and present the evidence. I would hold off on the cops since they can be wishy-washy on how things are handled (also may direct you to speak to the cops in their state since it's occurring there).

Square has a really weird viewpoint on how blacklisting works and you'll ultimately never be completely safe unless you change your name and hop servers. I had to do it when I dealt with an ex. They worry about how both people feel in the situation rather than protecting the victim. It's why you can't delete someone from your list and also be removed from theirs at the same time.

[Imora]

Hiya, someone here who has actually dealt with cyber crimes.

1. If you are in the US and being threatened across state lines, it can be considered a federal offense. You are fully in the right to go to the police/a lawyer with your proof. Just be aware, they will probably ask for more information/proof to gauge the entire situation.

2. To the people telling this person to "not worry" because the odds of the person doing it are slim: please stop. I've met people who have had their internet stalkers show up in their town. Yes it is slim but it still happens. It really depends on how unstable the person is.

3. A more usual form of attack in these situations is pizza delivery showing up at your house or prank phone calls. Don't panic if this happens, just send the food back and ignore the calls.

Your best bet tho is to go to a lawyer and present the evidence. I would hold off on the cops since they can be wishy-washy on how things are handled (also may direct you to speak to the cops in their state since it's occurring there).

Square has a really weird viewpoint on how blacklisting works and you'll ultimately never be completely safe unless you change your name and hop servers. I had to do it when I dealt with an ex. They worry about how both people feel in the situation rather than protecting the victim. It's why you can't delete someone from your list and also be removed from theirs at the same time.

Most games I've played had mutual friends lists.

You remove someone, you're removed from their list too. Who cares how they feel about it, you don't want to be friends with them for some reason they can get over it.

At the very least, putting someone on ignore should remove you from their friends list.

[kaynide]

Just told me, after a YEAR? Pulled me into mordion gaol, out of nowhere...I was in the midst of gathering almond seeds on an alt..and suddenly 'hey talking to gm in gaol now' if they couldn't tell me within a year? Something is seriously seriously wrong.

Well, you obviously did something wrong that merited a GM. To get to that point (going to the Gaol), there is some level of reporting and investigation of chat records. Was it for something you did a year ago? Or were you baited by your stalker into saying/doing things that could be reported? We don't know any more than you've told us.

[Awha]

Hiya, someone here who has actually dealt with cyber crimes.

1. If you are in the US and being threatened across state lines, it can be considered a federal offense. You are fully in the right to go to the police/a lawyer with your proof. Just be aware, they will probably ask for more information/proof to gauge the entire situation.

2. To the people telling this person to "not worry" because the odds of the person doing it are slim: please stop. I've met people who have had their internet stalkers show up in their town. Yes it is slim but it still happens. It really depends on how unstable the person is.

3. A more usual form of attack in these situations is pizza delivery showing up at your house or prank phone calls. Don't panic if this happens, just send the food back and ignore the calls.

Your best bet tho is to go to a lawyer and present the evidence. I would hold off on the cops since they can be wishy-washy on how things are handled (also may direct you to speak to the cops in their state since it's occurring there).

Square has a really weird viewpoint on how blacklisting works and you'll ultimately never be completely safe unless you change your name and hop servers. I had to do it when I dealt with an ex. They worry about how both people feel in the situation rather than protecting the victim. It's why you can't delete someone from your list and also be removed from theirs at the same time.

While I agree with the sentiment overall I will say the lawyer approach is dependent on how credible one feels the threat is. Since often lawyers will charge a entry retainer fee and depending on the state easily could be 500 to 3k and if it exceed that you still have to deal with their hourly rate. Granted yes some of the money is refundable if ones issues are fairly simple which none sadly these cases rarely are since they often transcend boarders of some kind and gathering of evidence is time consuming and drafting if documentation is just as time consuming.

So from experience sure some stalkers come to the person but statistically that is not the case most times and let us also be real the lawyer approach is not a magic bullet that makes things better and could be that thing that pushes one over the edge.

Best approach is to ignore blacklist and move on. If it gets worse and starts to impact one's daily life that is when one should consider legal approach but understand that it is not as simple as providing proof in itself many factors come into play.

[Imora]

While I agree with the sentiment overall I will say the lawyer approach is dependent on how credible one feels the threat is. Since often lawyers will charge a entry retainer fee and depending on the state easily could be 500 to 3k and if it exceed that you still have to deal with their hourly rate. Granted yes some of the money is refundable if ones issues are fairly simple which none sadly these cases rarely are since they often transcend boarders of some kind and gathering of evidence is time consuming and drafting if documentation is just as time consuming.

So from experience sure some stalkers come to the person but statistically that is not the case most times and let us also be real the lawyer approach is not a magic bullet that makes things better and could be that thing that pushes one over the edge.

Best approach is to ignore blacklist and move on. If it gets worse and starts to impact one's daily life that is when one should consider legal approach but understand that it is not as simple as providing proof in itself many factors come into play.

I knew a guy(deceased now) whose RP wife in another game (one of his really good irl friends) was getting death threats and irl info posted in public places in game. We had no idea how this guy got her info, but apparently he was pissed she wouldn't "dump" out friend to be with him. Because he thought there was an actual relationship going on.

My friend contacted police when they started doing it to him, too, who referred him to FBI. FBI petitioned SOE for the other player's information and arrested him on charges.

Stuff *does* get done about it sometimes.

[Wavaryen]

I knew a guy(deceased now) whose RP wife in another game (one of his really good irl friends) was getting death threats and irl info posted in public places in game. We had no idea how this guy got her info, but apparently he was pissed she wouldn't "dump" out friend to be with him. Because he thought there was an actual relationship going on.

My friend contacted police when they started doing it to him, too, who referred him to FBI. FBI petitioned SOE for the other player's information and arrested him on charges.

Stuff *does* get done about it sometimes.

Like I said before, I think it depends on the area you live in. Some police in some areas are so worthless that I don't even know what they do besides protect business.

[Imora]

Like I said before, I think it depends on the area you live in. Some police in some areas are so worthless that I don't even know what they do besides protect business.

Sounds like my whole country, except they don't even protect businesses. Sweden's police are bloody useless.

[Wavaryen]

Sounds like my whole country, except they don't even protect businesses. Sweden's police are bloody useless.

Ya, sadly it is a state thing here. Some states they are pretty good. Others? Sounds like sweden. That sucks for us for sure.

[KayRadley]

The moral of this story: avoid the Novice Network at all costs.