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    Varilyon's Avatar
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    Lakryma Tyental
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
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    I do not know the real circumstances and why the GMs don\\'t working.

    But why don\\'t you go to the police? In my country its an illegal act to stalk and to send deaththreads. They could easily force Square Enix to hand out all information.
    When the police calls them, GMs will do something
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varilyon View Post
    I do not know the real circumstances and why the GMs don\\'t working.

    But why don\\'t you go to the police? In my country its an illegal act to stalk and to send deaththreads. They could easily force Square Enix to hand out all information.
    When the police calls them, GMs will do something

    Depends on the area, country and in my case state. Cops around here? Would not care at all, and just calling them they get annoyed and just act like you are a bother. So I could very much see why some don't.


    On this topic at hand, I'm not sure why it happen...as my wife said she dealt with a stalker, and I blew up on the forums at people who was calling her every negative thing in the book saying she was asking for it, and or she was cheating on me and it blew up on her. I talked with a GM afterwards and we got it all cleared up, and even though I broke forum rules for being upset. They saw just how badly people was treating us and was understanding. And because of that, I not broke any rules since.

    So most of the times GMs are pretty reasonable well back during heavenward. Not sure what happen here, but I wish you luck.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    I'm not sure you were given a penalty for the vote kick here and now; rather it might have been applied long ago and you are just now aware of it.

    For the situation at hand, keep reporting it. Every time it happens.

    Then, as suggested, get to know your country/states laws regarding internet harassment and build up whatever evidence might be needed.

    Worst case, call GM the next time it happens and if the GM is inactive, ask them point blank "In the state/country I live in, the harasser has violated the law X by doing Y. If this is something you can not resolve, do I need to get law enforcement involved?" Don't make a threat of it, but do include any relevant screenshots or exchanges with SE staff.

    Also, you will never know what happens to your harasser. They will never give you information about action taken, or investigations ongoing. They just accept your information and move on with it. If one day your harasser magically disappears, most likely your call was the reason why.
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    Verendal Nokaitha
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    Just told me, after a YEAR? Pulled me into mordion gaol, out of nowhere...I was in the midst of gathering almond seeds on an alt..and suddenly 'hey talking to gm in gaol now' if they couldn't tell me within a year? Something is seriously seriously wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    Just told me, after a YEAR? Pulled me into mordion gaol, out of nowhere...I was in the midst of gathering almond seeds on an alt..and suddenly 'hey talking to gm in gaol now' if they couldn't tell me within a year? Something is seriously seriously wrong.
    Well, you obviously did something wrong that merited a GM. To get to that point (going to the Gaol), there is some level of reporting and investigation of chat records. Was it for something you did a year ago? Or were you baited by your stalker into saying/doing things that could be reported? We don't know any more than you've told us.
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    I would assume that it's simply a case of bad wording from the GM and that you were likely flagged over the NN kick.

    SE's in game GMs can be wildly erratic in how they deal with reports and hand out punishments accordingly. It's a fairly safe assumption that the drivel spouting sprout reported you after the kick and you got unlucky with the GM that picked up the ticket.

    If you're being honest about not abusing vote kick, I can't see what else it can be. Mistaken identities are one thing that doesn't happen at least.
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    The sprouts I have kicked posts white supremacy, made death threats in privates along with threats to packet sniff my location, demanded to know if I have a wife and kids, demanded my address, said 'dox' will get them, and other such thing. Another one I kicked a few times was for posting racial slurs, and nazi propaganda. Other kicks include 'blatant trolling (ie ranting about how everyone who plays this is a weeb and consoles are for poor people anyone who can't pc should uninstall) among other insults, and other, far worse things. The mentors I have kicked...deliberate misinformation, trolling, attacking people, openly telling people to use third party programs, every kick I've ever made can draw to terms of service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    The sprouts I have kicked posts white supremacy, made death threats in privates along with threats to packet sniff my location, demanded to know if I have a wife and kids, demanded my address, said 'dox' will get them, and other such thing. Another one I kicked a few times was for posting racial slurs, and nazi propaganda. Other kicks include 'blatant trolling (ie ranting about how everyone who plays this is a weeb and consoles are for poor people anyone who can't pc should uninstall) among other insults, and other, far worse things. The mentors I have kicked...deliberate misinformation, trolling, attacking people, openly telling people to use third party programs, every kick I've ever made can draw to terms of service.
    Clearly the GM ypu got felt otherwise. Unfortunately not much you can do regarding the strike expect come to terms with it or stop playing.

    If you are being honest then yes it is unfortunate but that is the reality.
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    Put yourself on busy or search if you can block PM in your setting, no PM anymore, sorry...
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    Last edited by Ozalius; 07-23-2021 at 07:08 PM.

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    Hiya, someone here who has actually dealt with cyber crimes.

    1. If you are in the US and being threatened across state lines, it can be considered a federal offense. You are fully in the right to go to the police/a lawyer with your proof. Just be aware, they will probably ask for more information/proof to gauge the entire situation.

    2. To the people telling this person to "not worry" because the odds of the person doing it are slim: please stop. I've met people who have had their internet stalkers show up in their town. Yes it is slim but it still happens. It really depends on how unstable the person is.

    3. A more usual form of attack in these situations is pizza delivery showing up at your house or prank phone calls. Don't panic if this happens, just send the food back and ignore the calls.

    Your best bet tho is to go to a lawyer and present the evidence. I would hold off on the cops since they can be wishy-washy on how things are handled (also may direct you to speak to the cops in their state since it's occurring there).

    Square has a really weird viewpoint on how blacklisting works and you'll ultimately never be completely safe unless you change your name and hop servers. I had to do it when I dealt with an ex. They worry about how both people feel in the situation rather than protecting the victim. It's why you can't delete someone from your list and also be removed from theirs at the same time.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 07-23-2021 at 09:34 PM.

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