Are the numbers too high?

[weeble]

i agree with the op, they need to make gear matter more. better gear needs better results. forget this casual outlook where u can do everything naked and not make a huge impact. by 2.0 if not fixed i probably won't stay that much longer. take swtor i already quitting cause i'm maxed out gear for most part and nothing to do. guilds are empty all day other then the event times cause literally nothing else to do in that game other then that. it's a joke and any mmo that follows this style is set to fail and suck too.

[Rydin]

Complaining damage doesn't increase enough when you raise your STR and ATT power is your first problem. Look up your auto attack bonuses. What your attacking will effect damage too.

Your second problem is thinking stats cap at 280/290.

Materia is key to success.

I've not seen any tests that prove otherwise....
I have seen tests that prove it to be correct though

So saying I'd prefer a bigger difference in naked vs fully geared is a problem and not just a preference?

[Seiken]

Complaining damage doesn't increase enough when you raise your STR and ATT power is your first problem. Look up your auto attack bonuses. What your attacking will effect damage too.

Your second problem is thinking stats cap at 280/290.

Materia is key to success.

Hey Kory, this is a little off topic, but do you mind explaining what you've found out that shows stats not capping at 280/290? I remember you writing a "threshold" post a while back saying after 280 and 340 you get increasing returns on your damage. I tested a while back at 307 STR/PIE on LNC and at 368 STR on LNC without seeing any change in damage linearity. What types of changes are you seeing?

Thanks,

Seiken Valk

[weeble]

oh also for those who say we need to take into account for cap raise all way to 99 ...this is not true. no matter what level cap raises there will and should always be tons of different grades of gears and all of them should make there appropriate differences. good bad gears and all that inbetween and godly stuff too. none of them should be small differences but noticable ones.

[Firon]

Sooooo, then why can one fight pretty much any mob in the game and do DH, and moogle, and any mob they run across naked reasonably as easy as they can in good gear? That kind of makes the whole defence of the ifrit battle naked a moot point.

Show me a vid after 1.20 where some did moogle or DH naked w/o getting hit for tons of dmg. As a pgl i know attack and DEf stats work fine cause FoF and FoE help me greatly solo mobs 7 lvls above my lvl.

[Rydin]

Show me a vid after 1.20 where some did moogle or DH naked w/o getting hit for tons of dmg. As a pgl i know attack and DEf stats work fine cause FoF and FoE help me greatly solo mobs 7 lvls above my lvl.

Moogle didn't come out until 1.20 so all moogle fights are after the changes
and here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nAOsNJCl5s&
reindeer moogle

[Zangetsu]

I feel like people want to hit for 200 more damage a hit by adding on 50 STR. Hitting for 30 more damage on level 50 mobs in gear vs naked is a huge difference. If you put that into a party setup with everyone doing that much more damage your looking at a ton more damage than before. 200 arrows= 6,000 more damage. 5 archers: 1,000 arrows= 30,000 more damage. I'm pretty sure 200 arrows don't last long for an Archer.

[Rydin]

I feel like people want to hit for 200 more damage a hit by adding on 50 STR. Hitting for 30 more damage on level 50 mobs in gear vs naked is a huge difference. If you put that into a party setup with everyone doing that much more damage your looking at a ton more damage than before. 200 arrows= 6,000 more damage. 5 archers: 1,000 arrows= 30,000 more damage. I'm pretty sure 200 arrows don't last long for an Archer.

Its all relative...
If everyone is 5% stronger then you're entire party is.... 5% stronger than they would be naked....

[Zangetsu]

Its all relative...
If everyone is 5% stronger then you're entire party is.... 5% stronger than they would be naked....

So my understanding is you don't want gear to make you stronger. You just want to be useless naked.

[Coglin]

Complaining damage doesn't increase enough when you raise your STR and ATT power is your first problem. Look up your auto attack bonuses. What your attacking will effect damage too.

Your second problem is thinking stats cap at 280/290.

Materia is key to success.

Yeah, I am and ARC / THM / CNJ. How is auto attack on those classes aplicable to your comment?

Show me a vid after 1.20 where some did moogle or DH naked w/o getting hit for tons of dmg. As a pgl i know attack and DEf stats work fine cause FoF and FoE help me greatly solo mobs 7 lvls above my lvl.

Moogle didn't come out until 1.20 so all moogle fights are after the changes
and here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nAOsNJCl5s&
reindeer moogle

Okay, you have been shown, I am happily awaiting you next comment.