Pre patch suggestion

[Endariel]

The point is to launch new jobs and new races 1-2 weeks prior the actual expansion release.
As i mentioned earlier, this will allow for players to go into endwalker with their sage / reaper lvl 80 from the get go without wasting 2-3 days while everyone else is having fun in new dungeons / zones.
Also, let's be honest, everyone will start with early access. EA is here to justify the server instability at launch and potential major bugs that will be fixed right before the "actual" relase

[Sotaris]

The point is to launch new jobs and new races 1-2 weeks prior the actual expansion release.
As i mentioned earlier, this will allow for players to go into endwalker with their sage / reaper lvl 80 from the get go without wasting 2-3 days while everyone else is having fun in new dungeons / zones.

What a first world problem.

[Endariel]

What a first world problem.

A problem nonetheless

Anyway, over the years FFXIV team had brought numerous QoL changes one would deem "first world problems"
So I see no reason to ignore this one as well

[Evergrey]

The point is to launch new jobs and new races 1-2 weeks prior the actual expansion release.
As i mentioned earlier, this will allow for players to go into endwalker with their sage / reaper lvl 80 from the get go without wasting 2-3 days while everyone else is having fun in new dungeons / zones.
Also, let's be honest, everyone will start with early access. EA is here to justify the server instability at launch and potential major bugs that will be fixed right before the "actual" relase

Does this boil down to the mentallity that an MMO is a race to the end and if you're jsut a day or two behind you're shit out of luck and all the fun of the experience is wasted?
Dang, I feel sorry for all the players who started after the release of FFXIV 2.0. They basically got screwed over from the fun of the game.
Heck, I got screwed then. Curse you SE! *shakes fist in anger*
Every good moment I had in the game was a lie!

[Sotaris]

Does this boil down to the mentallity that an MMO is a race to the end and if you're jsut a day or two behind you're shit out of luck and all the fun of the experience is wasted?
Dang, I feel sorry for all the players who started after the release of FFXIV 2.0. They basically got screwed over from the fun of the game.
Heck, I got screwed then. Curse you SE! *shakes fist in anger*
Every good moment I had in the game was a lie!

Time to unsub!

[Iscah]

Does this boil down to the mentallity that an MMO is a race to the end and if you're jsut a day or two behind you're shit out of luck and all the fun of the experience is wasted?

To be fair, there's a "race to the end (while thoroughly enjoying the story) so you can join the discussion and before you unwillingly get spoiled" element to it.

Still, it's only a complication if you specifically want to play as sage or reaper, and while releasing them early would make sense to a degree, it also may be a deliberate tactic to stagger the crowds by making some portion of players do something other than go straight to the MSQ.

[Sotaris]

To be fair, there's a "race to the end (while thoroughly enjoying the story) so you can join the discussion and before you unwillingly get spoiled" element to it.

Sounds more like a entitlement. No one force you to look at social media and forums if you worried about being spoiled.

If you really want to "win the race" then do the msq on a pre existing Lv80 job and change to RPR and SAG or whatever they going to be shortened as.

Make it a Digital Collector's Edition bonus so we can lord over the poor plebs for a week.

We already do in form of early access.

[Iscah]

Sounds more like a entitlement. No one force you to look at social media and forums if you worried about being spoiled.

If you really want to "win the race" then do the msq on a pre existing Lv80 job and change to RPR and SAG or whatever they going to be shortened as.

I didn't say I supported or wanted the early access, just pointing out that there are reasons for people to want to do the MSQ as soon as they can (which is not quite the same thing as as quickly as they can) that aren't just "gotta go fast so I can be first in a race that wins me nothing".

[TaleraRistain]

Does this boil down to the mentallity that an MMO is a race to the end and if you're jsut a day or two behind you're shit out of luck and all the fun of the experience is wasted?

I wouldn't be surprised if this is part of the reason the devs don't do it here, since they try very much not to treat this game like a rush to the end.

It would be nice to get our hands on jobs ahead of time in some capacity, to help the devs troubleshoot oversights or plain bad design.

It definitely would have been nice to give them some feedback ahead of time on lilies, though.

[CKNovel]

The point is to launch new jobs and new races 1-2 weeks prior the actual expansion release.
As i mentioned earlier, this will allow for players to go into endwalker with their sage / reaper lvl 80 from the get go without wasting 2-3 days while everyone else is having fun in new dungeons / zones.
Also, let's be honest, everyone will start with early access. EA is here to justify the server instability at launch and potential major bugs that will be fixed right before the "actual" relase

I did this with SAM at SB release, it took a morning to level from 50 to 60.
I didn't missed anything due to Raubhan EX, but even if there was nothing like this, missing a day or two... Nah, no thanks.

I'd welcome a PTR that would allow players to try the jobs before release but they wouldn't be able to make changes before the actual release. At most for 6.1.
And we're not sure to what feedback they listen, so it's swinging a sword in the water half of the time.