FFXIV's weird prostitution hangup

[Roeshel]

None of this is relevant. It doesn't matter what happens "in real life" or "lore-wise". In the end, on this subject, the only thing that matters is what is and isn't allowed by the Terms of Service we all agree to when using the FFXIV software.

According to that statement, people shouldn't be using ACT but raiders do right? So if SE can make an exception for some type of players then it is only just to make an exception for another type of players too.

Also, what's the big deal of just declining? Say you are not into that stuff and period. I don't really know what the situation with RP is at large because right now most of my time in FFXIV is spent alt-tapped, waiting for pf groups to fill up but before I was raiding, I also had different search info and I was Miqo'te so people did approach me in towns, even in Zadnor, and we then move the discussion to discord and I was more than fine with it. In my opinion, the only thing that matters the most is whether you are having fun or not and usually ToS is made to put restrictions on the very few oddballs of society whose fun comes at the detriment of others.

Regarding the OP, I don't really get the meaning of "FFXIV sex trade". It's not like you can do it. The person just assumed you were like them I guess so they proposed whatever they proposed. You can't really blame them for that though, you were in their event after all. If you don't want to be hit up in the wrong way, don't be around the type of people who are wrong for you, it's that simple. Unlike you, there are ppl who want exactly that type of experience for which the event was made I guess.

[Rinhi]

If you don't want to be hit up in the wrong way, don't be around the type of people who are wrong for you, it's that simple. Unlike you, there are ppl who want exactly that type of experience for which the event was made I guess.

that's some yikes victim blaming

[Roeshel]

that's some yikes victim blaming

It's not victim-blaming. Victim blaming can occur only if they were actually a victim. The OP is not a victim and even considering that they are a victim is very far-fetched. The OP was with the wrong people for her. That's like hanging out with people who constantly smoke, and falling into the delusion that you are their victim because they asked you to smoke with them too. It is only natural for people to want you to become more like them when you are doing stuff together. You would become a victim only if they forced you into things against your will which is not remotely the case with what happened to the OP.

Since we started talking about victims, if you look at things from a different perspective you can arrive at the conclusion that the host of the event became a victim of the OP's difference in taste for fun. The event clearly wasn't meant for her, and she partly ruined the fun of the one who organised all of it.

But let's look at things objectively. Organise your own RP events where you control what's happening, instead of having someone else organise that for you and complain about things they like doing that you don't. It's the same with pf groups with different macros. If you don't like Light Titan and you want Dwayne Titan then make your own party and wait for ppl to fill that party.

[Rinhi]

It's not victim-blaming. Victim blaming can occur only if they were actually a victim. The OP is not a victim and even considering that they are a victim is very far-fetched. The OP was with the wrong people for her. That's like hanging out with people who constantly smoke, and falling into the delusion that you are their victim because they asked you to smoke with them too. It is only natural for people to want you to become more like them when you are doing stuff together. You would become a victim only if they forced you into things against your will which is not remotely the case with what happened to the OP.

Since we started talking about victims, if you look at things from a different perspective you can arrive at the conclusion that the host of the event became a victim of the OP's difference in taste for fun. The event clearly wasn't meant for her, and she partly ruined the fun of the one who organised all of it.

But let's look at things objectively. Organise your own RP events where you control what's happening, instead of having someone else organise that for you and complain about things they like doing that you don't. It's the same with pf groups with different macros. If you don't like Light Titan and you want Dwayne Titan then make your own party and wait for ppl to fill that party.

so you're saying that all RPers are actually ERPers? considering the OP went to a normal RP bar and yet they still got that proposition...
no, instead you double down and blame them for going to a normal bar and being asked if they'd like to sell their virtual body and that the OP should've known, like, did you even read the posts or read what you're writing? how is this NOT victim blaming? you're basically saying that it's to be expected because the OP is a catgirl on balmung
your smoke analogy makes no sense because this here isn't a case of peer pressure but a case of a supposedly "safe" RP place being once again the front for ERP and again people are making excuses for it, it's weird
big yikes

[Roeshel]

so you're saying that all RPers are actually ERPers? considering the OP went to a normal RP bar and yet they still got that proposition...
no, instead you double down and blame them for going to a normal bar and being asked if they'd like to sell their virtual body and that the OP should've known, like, did you even read the posts or read what you're writing? how is this NOT victim blaming? you're basically saying that it's to be expected because the OP is a catgirl on balmung
your smoke analogy makes no sense because this here isn't a case of peer pressure but a case of a supposedly "safe" RP place being once again the front for ERP and again people are making excuses, it's weird
big yikes

An ERP event being advertised as a normal RP event makes no sense first of all. You will get a bunch of people who don't want to participate in your event and the whole thing will be ruined so you are basically wasting your time.

What's normal RP on Balmung. You have to define that if you want to proceed. If ERPs is more common than RP then ERPs is by default the normal. In any case, ERPs gain nothing from having people like the OP in their events. I wouldn't want them in my bar if I ever decide to organise an event. So it makes little to no sense to me that people won't try to actively prevent such type of players crashing their parties unless that type of players are almost non-existent, meaning they are too few to even bother. If you are on a server where ERP is prevalent, asking the whole community to change for you so that you can do the RP you like is a bit too much. Do the opposite or move away.

In the original post, the word "normal" was never mentioned btw. This was later added in his following post. And even after reading the second post, I am still doubting that they are victims. A victim can be a person who has been tricked or duped. And if ERP is the normal thing in Balmung then they were just being ignorant of the environment that surrounds them.

I just googled it and found that Balmung is an unofficial RP server who was the first NA server to fully rebuild New Nest, surpassing the hardcore players on Gilgamesh. But I am now reading 4-year-old comments on reddit about ERP in public chat on Balmung and some 2-year-old article about player-maintained brothels, so what we consider normal RP definitely doesn't apply there if everything is the same. I'd guess that being erotic with their role-playing is pretty much their normal. So my point that OP is not a victim still stands.

[Senn]

And if ERP is the normal thing in Balmung then they were just being ignorant of the environment that surrounds them.

So because erp is the norm on that server, the advertisement doesn't need to mention it's nsfw? People should just assume the venue is going to have erp in it? That's... not good.

[Almagnus1]

So because erp is the norm on that server, the advertisement doesn't need to mention it's nsfw? People should just assume the venue is going to have erp in it? That's... not good.

That's going to go over well until they get someone to screenshot and report ERP for harassment when they were expecting RP.

Or something else comes of it not good for FFXIV.