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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    A year ago we didn't even have a forum (not counting the beta one), we had no rep, and communication level was 0.
    ......

    As for your example as a graphic designer, cool story. We just don't live in the same real world I think. Delays happen often, everywhere, in all kind of activity sectors, especially when working internationally. It's always the same thing is the end, the customer only have one mean of pressure: not paying.
    I wanted to reply to this post because it brought me some amusement. I highlighted one part which was particularly funny and the second part (sorry I edited out some stuff I found less interesting) about missing deadlines and not living in the same real world... I don't know what kind of a world you live in where it is ok to miss deadlines after deadlines with no communication with the client. In the real world I live in, if something gets delayed you keep the client up to date down to the minute of what is happening and why the delays has occured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba View Post
    I wanted to reply to this post because it brought me some amusement. I highlighted one part which was particularly funny and the second part (sorry I edited out some stuff I found less interesting) about missing deadlines and not living in the same real world... I don't know what kind of a world you live in where it is ok to miss deadlines after deadlines with no communication with the client. In the real world I live in, if something gets delayed you keep the client up to date down to the minute of what is happening and why the delays has occured.
    Do you realize that SE has not yet released a date nor deadline to which they have an obligation to fulfill? All that SE has ever released are projections and timelines that they use as goals. No where is it said that any of their patches will be released on such and such day, but rather, in every one of their posts they always leave themselves a margin of error with some fancy line such as "we reserve the right to change any and or all information heretofore mentioned" or "preojected dates are subject to change".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Do you realize that SE has not yet released a date nor deadline to which they have an obligation to fulfill? All that SE has ever released are projections and timelines that they use as goals. No where is it said that any of their patches will be released on such and such day, but rather, in every one of their posts they always leave themselves a margin of error with some fancy line such as "we reserve the right to change any and or all information heretofore mentioned" or "preojected dates are subject to change".
    This a joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    This a joke?
    You are a Joke.

    Find and post proof that SE has said they "will" release any patch on any specific date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    You are a Joke.
    Oh sweet, we're going down to base insults because all your post are effin ridiculous?

    OK, I counter you with: Yer face is a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    Oh sweet, we're going down to base insults because all your post are effin ridiculous?

    OK, I counter you with: Yer face is a joke.
    I could find the post where you ask me "Are you stupid?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    I can't help but ask: Are you stupid?
    Considering that you are the first person to throw around insults, don't you think it's hypocritcal to call me out for "insulting" you after you have done so to me on more than one count?

    hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/
    Noun:

    The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

    Edit: you are the one whose posts are fully rediculous, you think that SE should or has some sort of obligation to cater to your every whim because you are so freakin bored of this game or because the patch information hasn't been released yet, or yet again because the patch itself isn't implemented yet. Yet you STILL cannot find any proof that SE has commited to releasing ANYTHING on ANY SPECIFIC DAY.

    Even SE's Roadmap is JUST THAT: A ROADMAP. It is used to give them a sense of timing and direction, but they aren't going to fire personnel forbeing unable to release information based upon a projection of the time it MIGHT or COULD take them to complete something.

    Get over your self Vackashken. You are so full of self pride and self worth it's unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I could find the post where you ask me "Are you stupid?"

    Considering that you are the first person to throw around insults, don't you think it's hypocritcal to call me out for "insulting" you after you have done so to me on more than one count?

    hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/
    Noun:

    The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
    No, that was a question based on the absurdity of your retort. I wasn't actually calling you stupid. I was simply curious. though, as this thread goes on, and the laughable justification you come up with go on, I suppose you're answering that question.

    See, thats a clever way of getting my point across. If you need a more dumbed down version you'll understand: Yer face is stupid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8qG...eature=related
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    Last edited by Vackashken; 02-22-2012 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    Oh sweet, we're going down to base insults because all your post are effin ridiculous?

    OK, I counter you with: Yer face is a joke.
    Your pixels are a joke.

    But seriously:

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    I’d also like to share some info on the release schedule for 1.21. We’d originally aimed for the patch to go live in the second week of February, but after looking over the amount of content and all the accompanying UI changes, localization, balancing, QA’ing, and such, we’re currently looking at a delay of about two weeks. We’re pushing really hard for an end-of-February release, but ask that you wait a bit and keep an eye on the announcements we’ll be making on the forums and in Topics regarding details. (Don’t worry, none of this will have any effect on the version 2.0 schedule!)
    Using "aimed", "about" and "pushing really hard" as a time frame aren't even remotely close to giving a definite, confirmed date. Should they be communicating a little bit more regarding the state/progress of the patch, or perhaps another preview? Sure.

    Have lodestone announcements been made at earlier hours? Definitely, but they've also been made later in the day. If nothing is posted later today/early tomorrow then that could be a cause of concern, if you could even call it that much.
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