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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    And I´m sure a lot of the people who are now defending SE for the lack of information will love to see some news, I do!
    Lets try to call the attention of the administrators in a polite way, maybe we will obtain some kind of information that way...maybe...
    It's not about defending SE or not. More information is always better. It will just take them time before the communication level reaches what it should be. Rather than judging on the level of communication we have now, we should rather compare how it improves as the time goes by.
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    Antipika.
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    No one is preventing you from being angry/disappointed, you are still allowed to post here and raise your opinion. It doesn't change the fact that patchs always gets delayed, no matter how hard you will cry, this won't change.

    A year ago we didn't even have a forum (not counting the beta one), we had no rep, and communication level was 0.

    Now we gets letter of producer, reps comment, events here and there, youtube video, roadmap and all. It's not perfect but it's becoming better, and if you cannot see that then there is a huge issue.

    As for your example as a graphic designer, cool story. We just don't live in the same real world I think. Delays happen often, everywhere, in all kind of activity sectors, especially when working internationally. It's always the same thing is the end, the customer only have one mean of pressure: not paying.
    Why are you constantly coming back to patch delay? I've been playing since release. I HAVE COME TO LEARN EVERY PATCH IS DELAYED.

    But at least for previous patches we were more informed. Communication is getting weaker. Its almost a case of, take the money and run (Since Subscriptions).

    I'm also aware that information is on its way. Hence why i used to word "DELAY'. I'm aware its coming. Even if it is remarkably late.

    Delays are frequent inevitable. But you know what? When they happen, thats when communication is most vital. And thats the problem here. Not the delay in the patch, the lack of communication.

    P.S. Why do white knights always turn to obscure metaphors or begin lecturing? It becomes blatantly obvious how little they have to go on to proove their points of view. I suppose its easier to cling desperately to irrelvant, derailing information, rather than provide facts to back anything up.
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    Last edited by Avraym; 02-21-2012 at 10:39 PM.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Missing the point here. The main complaint it SE's inability to communicate with their customers after they have already delayed the patch. Most of us are fine with delays, it is understandable, but keeping us in the dark is definitely not a good move on their end.
    I'm not missing the point in any way Velhart! I understand that people want info on when the patch is coming out! You think I dont. I'm just saying that I'm sure Yoshi has his reasons for not telling us. People would rage a whole lot more if Yoshi released something like "Patch in 5 days!" then half a day later "Sorry guys had another fatal error and have to push the patch back another 2 weeks!"

    My point was people need to relax! Chill! Good things come to those who wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agoven View Post
    Here's the deal folks.

    Setting up server merges will require patching. SE is not going to double patch so soon. Henceforth, 1.21 and the server merge patch will come together. So 1.21 should be released March 1st.

    Either SE will release info this Thursday for a 7 day digest. Or Monday/Tuesday...

    Also, I expect a live letter announcement shortly after 1.21.
    You realize that the merge itself isn't until March 27th, right? Transfer applications open up on the 1st.
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    If people are really this impatient they need to google translate the japanese dev tracker and muddle through the translations to get the gist of what was said. Not sure if they are going to bother with last mention of progress they put up. More then likely they will just skip it and go with the producers letter whenever its ready.
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    I'm not really expecting anything amazing till Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post

    There is literally nothing anyone can say to justify this lack of updates in general - never mind so close to its supposed release date.
    There is literally nothing you can say to justify why Square Enix SHOULD post any more than they already have.
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    Last edited by Matsume; 02-21-2012 at 11:27 PM.

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    I would like to take this time to remind you all of this:

    In order to keep the forums a pleasant place for everyone, please adhere to the following guidelines. Note that these guidelines are incorporated into the Square Enix Account Terms of Use, located here.

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    crit·i·cize/ˈkritəˌsīz/
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    Indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way
    Form and express a judgment of (a literary or artistic work).

    This is not off topic considering more than half the posts in this thread are direct criticisms of the way in which SE has or has not handled the release of patch 1.21 information in the face of a 2 week and potentially further delay.

    Now I will start digging up proof of such criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    The fact of the matter is they handled this all wrong. People need to feel hype for this patch. They could have spent all this time releasing tidbits of teasers. They could have released a job video a week, 30 seconds long hyping said job. Or to stretch it out show a WS a week from various jobs (so as not to spoil them all). They could have released a bit of eye candy every so often to keep people excited. Their marketing is terrible. If this patch is so enormousness and grand then there is no reason -- whatsoever -- for them to have held their cards so close to their chest for this amount of time.

    The reality is people are tired - which is 100 percent understandable regardless of how many droves of White Knights try to joust that fact down. They handled it wrong. As aforementioned if they have so much to bring to the table this time a slow build up of it, through various forms of information that is more tangible, is how it should have been handled.
    Phrases in Bold are direct criticisms that are against forum guidelines.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I would like to take this time to remind you all of this:



    crit·i·cize/ˈkritəˌsīz/
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    Indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way
    Form and express a judgment of (a literary or artistic work).

    This is not off topic considering more than half the posts in this thread are direct criticisms of the way in which SE has or has not handled the release of patch 1.21 information in the face of a 2 week and potentially further delay.

    Now I will start digging up proof of such criticism.



    Awesome
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    ive come to the conclusion that 1.21 is a myth
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