So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[Jojoya]

Nope.

One ticket, winners get a random plot in the ward.

Fairest way i see it. Just because you have more money shouldn't mean you get to game the system. First come first serve also restricts you to camping one plot anyway.

You want a specific plot, go camp it with the rest.

Different plots have different prices. Your suggestion means only the players with more money get to have a house since the highest plot price is 50 million gil. Everyone would need to be able to pay the highest price in case that's the plot they get awarded.

Trying to award a random plot would also only work the first day (or however long the lottery period is) of new ward additions. After that, it's extremely unlikely a ward would have more than one plot available.

Though this did sparked more questions - how long will the period to purchase a lottery ticket last? 24 hours? A week?

Will players be able to withdraw from the lottery to get a full refund if they decide they need that gil for something else?

They said random ward though, we don't know if person is assigned a random plot unless that information been translated?

If people are forced onto a plot that pretty crappy, especially the players who wants a medium or large for various reasons.
I'm/was excited to relocate my large to Ishgard but now i'm afrid I'd get stuck in a rng game instead of just go relocate.

Do you have a quote of the translation you can copy/link where they talk about "random wards".

My impression (though it comes from the unofficial translation as the Live Letter was in progress, a clearer translation might have been posted later) was that they were going to randomly assign wards as FCFS or lottery, adjusting the numbers of each type as they see demand for both types. I definitely would expect them to slightly weight ward numbers in favor of FCs since access to workshops and Grade 3 actions are locked behind house ownership.

[Nepentha]

If we just wait, we could end up with the timer situation all over again. Something that sounds good when first proposed but ends up abused because no one thought about how players would react to it.

So let's start thinking and throwing out ideas based on what little we know so far. How could these system changes possibly end up abused? By giving feedback now several months before Ishgard housing and presumably these changes will be implemented, SE might be able to tweak their intentions to at least reduce the potential problems.

I'm not here to farm upvotes so you might as well get that thought out of your head. I want to see the best possible system implemented so the greatest possible number of players will have access to a house in the future.

I'm going to agree with Jojoya on this one. On the surface, the placard click looked promising, especially considering the time it was implemented and the issues going on then. Unfortunately, all it did was turn players into rats in a variable ratio scheduled experiment and the resellers quickly figured out how to get around this (and it also allowed placard clicking bots to flourish as an unforeseen consequence).

There are just too many ideas being flung around. FC only wards? Player housing only wards? Lottery? First come first serve? Which IS it? All of them? How in the world can you implement all of those ideas at the same time. Are we going to try one and then another? How about relocation? How will this be affected?

Honestly if SE wants to address the housing resellers, they need to address relocation and the changing of FC master. Those are the two biggest ways resellers have managed to circumvent the measures put in place to curtail their activities. (They've been laughing all the way to the gil bank this whole time.) But I saw none of that mentioned in any translation so far.

[Sotaris]

Do you have a quote of the translation you can copy/link where they talk about "random wards".

My impression (though it comes from the unofficial translation as the Live Letter was in progress, a clearer translation might have been posted later) was that they were going to randomly assign wards as FCFS or lottery, adjusting the numbers of each type as they see demand for both types. I definitely would expect them to slightly weight ward numbers in favor of FCs since access to workshops and Grade 3 actions are locked behind house ownership.

This housing lottery system will assign wards to FFXIV players, but there will be requirements to participate.

So it might just be my interpretation but it sounds to me like you don't get to select which ward you want to sign up for.

https://www.siliconera.com/ffxiv-hou...-ishgard-area/

[Aelin_Ashryver]

23 million players and they really need to resort to a lottery? I was hoping for some instanced housing but a lottery just sounds nightmarish as well, bots will come by their hundreds. FC and solo wards means I need to know what ward is what, when you could just make company workshops usable in a private plot and a lot of people with 2 houses won't need a second one anymore.

Even if they just made a large apartment and allowed gardening in it, I think a lot would be pretty happy with that. Make it so if you had a large apartment you cannot have a ward house.

[Vahlnir]

23 million players and they really need to resort to a lottery? I was hoping for some instanced housing but a lottery just sounds nightmarish as well, bots will come by their hundreds. FC and solo wards means I need to know what ward is what, when you could just make company workshops usable in a private plot and a lot of people with 2 houses won't need a second one anymore.

Even if they just made a large apartment and allowed gardening in it, I think a lot would be pretty happy with that. Make it so if you had a large apartment you cannot have a ward house.

We don't have 23 million players. lol But yeah, I really don't think the devs get it. This just shows that they are out of ideas on how to make things work with the current system and decided to go with an option brought up through some random Q&A because why the heck not. With the population steadily increasing, they should be focused on futureproofing housing, not applying a bandaid to a severed limb and basically saying "Welp, we have no tourniquet, no medical experience and no pain meds. Let's just put this on there and hope it does something. Good luck surviving!"

[Bladehawk]

Gardening is awful. Most players who have houses hate it and want nothing
To do with it. Only a small group of house owners/fcs bother with it and that's the only reason there is any gil to be made with it.

Please stop with the "they need to let us garden in apartment" posts. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea and use of the developers time has no clue what they are talking about.

[Sotaris]

23 million players and they really need to resort to a lottery?

We don't have 23 M playing characters though.

Yeah, I really don't think the devs get it.

It's not that they don't "get it". I'm pretty sure I read in a interview somewhere that housing is pretty low prio in their to-do list so I think they just don't allocate resources to fund major housing changes. The Item team obviously make new furnitures and stuff like that.

Please stop with the "they need to let us garden in apartment" posts. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea and use of the developers time has no clue what they are talking about.

Well that's a reason many people wants a proper house in order to do gardening. They -should- add new features to apartments, upgrade sizes, have a instance area to do gardening (cross breeding etc). It's valid suggestions, even if it's obvious you think it's not.

[Alien_Gamer]

Gardening is awful. Most players who have houses hate it and want nothing
To do with it. Only a small group of house owners/fcs bother with it and that's the only reason there is any gil to be made with it.

Please stop with the "they need to let us garden in apartment" posts. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea and use of the developers time has no clue what they are talking about.

You can dislike the system, thats fine. But to say most players who have houses want nothing to do with it or hate it is untrue. Many people like gardening and want to participate in it but can't because the system is locked behind housing, thats why they want it added to apartments or some other system. Those that want to garden can, without the burden of taking up a house. Its an improvement for all players that like both gardening and housing, so yes its a good use of developer time.

[Jojoya]

So it might just be my interpretation but it sounds to me like you don't get to select which ward you want to sign up for.

https://www.siliconera.com/ffxiv-hou...-ishgard-area/

I think that might be a misunderstanding by the person writing that article. According to the subreddit translators (they're usually pretty accurate since they also know the game) YoshiP said there would be wards assigned as FC or solo, not that they would be assigned to specific players.

[Besame]

Gardening is awful. Most players who have houses hate it and want nothing
To do with it. Only a small group of house owners/fcs bother with it and that's the only reason there is any gil to be made with it.

Please stop with the "they need to let us garden in apartment" posts. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea and use of the developers time has no clue what they are talking about.

This player has a house hates it and wants nothing to do with it.