So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[StriderShinryu]

This is pretty much what I thought when I read the translated comments. They're just throwing a lot of different ideas into the system and then waiting to see what happens. They're complicating things without fixing them.

They will not change anything unless the core problem is fixed - supply. A player who wants a house but cannot get one because there are not enough is still an unhappy player.

Yes, we all get that, but how? It's really easy to say "Just change things so they are better!" But within the actual coding and architecture of how the game works, how do they do this? And, perhaps more importantly, how do they do this without screwing over all of the people who do have houses already and prefer the current system?

[Almagnus1]

They will not change anything unless the core problem is fixed - supply. A player who wants a house but cannot get one because there are not enough is still an unhappy player.

Splitting the personal and FC houses from each other is going to have an impact on supply, as that will (hopefully) introduce more houses back into the system.

Again, we do not have much information so we should be patient instead of going all Chicken Little and farming the upvotes... then again....

[Jojoya]

Yes, we all get that, but how? It's really easy to say "Just change things so they are better!" But within the actual coding and architecture of how the game works, how do they do this? And, perhaps more importantly, how do they do this without screwing over all of the people who do have houses already and prefer the current system?

Splitting the personal and FC houses from each other is going to have an impact on supply, as that will (hopefully) introduce more houses back into the system.

Again, we do not have much information so we should be patient instead of going all Chicken Little and farming the upvotes... then again....

If we just wait, we could end up with the timer situation all over again. Something that sounds good when first proposed but ends up abused because no one thought about how players would react to it.

So let's start thinking and throwing out ideas based on what little we know so far. How could these system changes possibly end up abused? By giving feedback now several months before Ishgard housing and presumably these changes will be implemented, SE might be able to tweak their intentions to at least reduce the potential problems.

I'm not here to farm upvotes so you might as well get that thought out of your head. I want to see the best possible system implemented so the greatest possible number of players will have access to a house in the future.

[Tint]

I think this actually makes buying a house worse. He's described 4 different groups for buying a house with wards to accommodate each: FC Lottery, FC Purchase, Solo Lottery, and Solo Purchase. This means no matter which group you're in, you have 1/4th the available houses to pick from. If you want to buy, instead of running to a ward and getting one, you now have the extra step of figuring out which wards you're even allowed to buy a house in.

So we end up with less houses to pick from, more hoops to jump through to buy and it doesn't fix the fundamental issue of NOT ENOUGH SUPPLY. I get that some people like the Lottery idea but this just makes it a worse mess.

Dividing the groups is actually a good thing and in favor for the FCs.

Without FC only wards it would be 1 FC against at least 25 individuals who want a house. Or 1 vs 100. I don't now, I am just making things up. BUT there are a LOT more individuals than FCs who want to buy a house while FCs need houses way more for the crafting and stuff and usually more people benefit from it.

Of course there will be the 1 person FCs, but FC only wards maybe will actually solve the supply problem for FC houses.

Supply for the personal houses... well they will never have enough houses, so whatever. At least we don't have to click on the placard for hours anymore.

[Almagnus1]

If we just wait, we could end up with the timer situation all over again. Something that sounds good when first proposed but ends up abused because no one thought about how players would react to it.

So let's start thinking and throwing out ideas based on what little we know so far. How could these system changes possibly end up abused? By giving feedback now several months before Ishgard housing and presumably these changes will be implemented, SE might be able to tweak their intentions to at least reduce the potential problems.

I'm not here to farm upvotes so you might as well get that thought out of your head. I want to see the best possible system implemented so the greatest possible number of players will have access to a house in the future.

And yet, we know absolutely nothing of what SE is actually going to do beyond a slide (if even that much information) from a live letter.

We quite literally have no information to work with... the board is loosing their minds over the possibility that something may not be good. It's actually quite an immature reaction tbh.

[Awha]

This is the problem with FFXIV community they praise the devs for not even bandaid fixes. A lottery system does not solve the supply issue. Yet people eat it all up.

[Sotaris]

I honestly can't see what this will fix. It only assign you a random ward but you still gotta try get the plot unless it FFA/relocate without a timer in these wards?

[Almagnus1]

I honestly can't see what this will fix. It only assign you a random ward but you still gotta try get the plot unless it FFA/relocate without a timer in these wards?

Only positive I'm seeing is that SE has implemented a way to get rid of the infernal timer so people won't need to stay at a placard for an absurd amount of time.

To many unknowns right now, so we really need to do a "wait and see" until we have more information from SE.

[Imora]

Why? That's basically punishing players twice. Not only do they not get the house but could be out 100M gil.



This defeats the entire purpose of making houses easier to get, assuming Ishgard releases with this lotto system. Instead of being to run to another plot if someone beats you there. You now cross your fingers on a single plot and if you don't get it, well, hope you enjoy waiting a good year or two for another shot. Why shouldn't people who have worked to build up a lot of gil have a chance to lotto on multiple houses?

Nope.

One ticket, winners get a random plot in the ward.

Fairest way i see it. Just because you have more money shouldn't mean you get to game the system. First come first serve also restricts you to camping one plot anyway.

You want a specific plot, go camp it with the rest.

[Sotaris]

They said random ward though, we don't know if person is assigned a random plot unless that information been translated?

If people are forced onto a plot that pretty crappy, especially the players who wants a medium or large for various reasons.
I'm/was excited to relocate my large to Ishgard but now i'm afrid I'd get stuck in a rng game instead of just go relocate.