Harassment to Asmongold on his 1st day stream is an Embarassment to FF Community

[Darathu]

Existing community, please do not harass Asmon. He has enough to deal with from trolls.

[MPK]

Heh apparently the person who was riding that whale on stream blocking asmongold got a 216 hour (9 day) ban

[Rae88]

Heh apparently the person who was riding that whale on stream blocking asmongold got a 216 hour (9 day) ban

Asmon has pretty low expectations of customer support and put in a report that was really lacklustre. He also probably missed the message a GM sent him because he's new and he was overwhelmed and his chat box would fill up pretty quickly. But there are a bunch of people reporting people who are griefing him. That naked ninja guy was also apparently banned.

I encourage everyone who sees someone griefing Asmon or any people coming over from WoW to report them. This has been a bad look for the FFXIV community in front of 100k people watching on Twitch.

[Thaciscokidd]

I encourage everyone who sees someone griefing Asmon or any people coming over from WoW to report them. This has been a bad look for the FFXIV community in front of 100k people watching on Twitch.

This is the biggest problem and disservice that this whole situation brings. Being front page on Twitch this might be the first and only time someone sees 14 at all and its gonna to be negative. I wasn't expecting the red carpet to be rolled out for him but it was a lot worse than I imagined it would be.

[linayar]

I encourage everyone who sees someone griefing ... any people ... to report them.

I expanded the scope for you.

[LunaJoy]

That moment when a dev/producer of your most favourite game ever, calls you an a-hole…
I think that says it all really

Honestly, I don’t see what the fuss is about this guy or why anyone defends him. He’s demeaning (especially to women) homophobic and cruel. You can tell me that’s a “persona” all you want, but an a-hole by any other name is still an a-hole in my book, and if you think he’s so great then…well…

I mean, I’ve never heard of him until a month ago, and I’m already sick of him and this fanboy mob mentality about him. A PSA to stop treating him so poorly because he happens to be known? Where are the PSAs for the countless new players who get harassed all the time? It’s not an embarrassment that we’re harassing this jerk. It’s an embarrassment that we harass anyone. Ever.

So, stop being hypocrites by harassing someone who is waiting for you to do exactly that, so he can be right and keep the toxicity alive in his mind and heart. But let’s also stop being hypocrites and asking the community to stop harassing one particular player when we aren’t doing it for everyone else.

And if he himself gets toxic and starts harassing people on ffxiv (and if those tweets are indicative of anything then it’s a matter of WHEN not IF) you can bet there are loads of people waiting and watching for it to happen. I wonder what the reaction will be to that. I’ll be looking for the PSAs for those he goes after to start popping up on the threads then.

[agaqt]

That moment when a dev/producer of your most favourite game ever, calls you an a-hole…
I think that says it all really

Honestly, I don’t see what the fuss is about this guy or why anyone defends him. He’s demeaning (especially to women) homophobic and cruel. You can tell me that’s a “persona” all you want, but an a-hole by any other name is still an a-hole in my book, and if you think he’s so great then…well…

I mean, I’ve never heard of him until a month ago, and I’m already sick of him and this fanboy mob mentality about him. A PSA to stop treating him so poorly because he happens to be known? Where are the PSAs for the countless new players who get harassed all the time? It’s not an embarrassment that we’re harassing this jerk. It’s an embarrassment that we harass anyone. Ever.

So, stop being hypocrites by harassing someone who is waiting for you to do exactly that, so he can be right and keep the toxicity alive in his mind and heart. But let’s also stop being hypocrites and asking the community to stop harassing one particular player when we aren’t doing it for everyone else.

And if he himself gets toxic and starts harassing people on ffxiv (and if those tweets are indicative of anything then it’s a matter of WHEN not IF) you can bet there are loads of people waiting and watching for it to happen. I wonder what the reaction will be to that. I’ll be looking for the PSAs for those he goes after to start popping up on the threads then.

I've watched him stream for years and haven't seen any of this demeaning of women you speak of, i think a lot of people especially from this community tend to hate on him because its the "cool" thing to do, and cruel? what did he punch a kitten? i think also this just stems from people being snowflakes. This guy has done quite a lot of good for charity's and a lot of what he earns goes into looking after his mum. I dont think its great but he tends to cop a lot of fake news within this community. There was a lot of proudboy idiots saying they griefed him in the novice chat a real "wd" moment. In all this was the worst toxicity ive seen in a mmo in all my time playing them.

The reason the dev called him that has everything to do with how vocal he is about how badly his favourite game is being trashed by people who arent interested in the game rather the money they can milk from its fan base. And i'm fairly certain a lot of people who are passionate about this game would also take the same stance if it happened to this game. But go on pretending your superior to him and evangelize your game like the good little karens you are.

[Kolsykol]

I think this is it, though I hope it is not because this is weapons grade ironic:

I'll never understand why this is considered acceptable, Adam also changed his bio in order to gloat about it I don't understand either how they can think it makes them look good like holy shit they're so out of touch...
This isn't even remotely the worst that I've seen be targeted against Asmon alone, but just devs in the US in general I dunno why so many of them are so damn toxic online.
And then when they do get fired everyone acts like a complete moron about it like with that writer from GW2 when she was fired.
And it clearly wasn't just the one case when you went back and looked at her history, she even said she was happy that Totalbiscuit died from cancer like these are the people we're talking about...

It's especially bizarre because they then act like these great progressive people, just because you jump on every bandwagon that is trendy currently doesn't make you a good person.
Being a good person is about how you act when there is nothing to gain or just in general.
Just because you tweet about some social issues doesn't give you a free pass to say and do whatever you want it's not that hard to understanda.

It's a really bad look because he's essentially condoning the harassment, he didn't do the responsible thing and say '' don't do that '' instead he just decided to attack Asmon which reads as him condoning it.
Like why is this allowed, and others cases like it?
Why is Blizzard not telling them to knock it off?
It looks horrible especially since Blizzard is already having massive PR issues beyond this, and this just makes it worse.
Especially since he has it in his bio too, I am sorry but you can't just put your employeer in your bio and then get away with anything just because you say '' it's my views ''.
That's complete bullshit, and it wouldn't pass in any other industry.
When you put your employeers name and your position in your bio you ARE representing them whether you like it or not.
Either take it off or behave like a decent human being.

I've watched him stream for years and haven't seen any of this demeaning of women you speak of, i think a lot of people especially from this community tend to hate on him because its the "cool" thing to do, and cruel? what did he punch a kitten? i think also this just stems from people being snowflakes. This guy has done quite a lot of good for charity's and a lot of what he earns goes into looking after his mum. I dont think its great but he tends to cop a lot of fake news within this community. There was a lot of proudboy idiots saying they griefed him in the novice chat a real "wd" moment. In all this was the worst toxicity ive seen in a mmo in all my time playing them.

The reason the dev called him that has everything to do with how vocal he is about how badly his favourite game is being trashed by people who arent interested in the game rather the money they can milk from its fan base. And i'm fairly certain a lot of people who are passionate about this game would also take the same stance if it happened to this game. But go on pretending your superior to him and evangelize your game like the good little karens you are.

Quite the opposite he always tells people to knock it off when they attack women in chat for their appearance or are being creepy.
He does talk about boob sliders and all that but it comes across as more ironic to me, his actual behaviour and attitude towards women irl is very respectful.
I mean Zepla did the same thing on Allcraft and she has videos about sexy mogs etc, and I don't see people attacking her for it and they shouldn't.

Even when it comes to the streamers in hot tubs and all that it's more about breaking the rules and not about moralizing about what they're doing.

[VelKallor]

In one of his highlight videos he posted last week, he encouraged his viewers to report a specific player in his party for name violation and you could see that player going offline almost immediately as the game kicked him from the server because of those reports. That's supposed to be a reasonable and nice guy? Do you think those viewers just randomly and independently reported that player and not because he told him to do it?

Sorry on this I agreed with his actions. I wont show the name here, Ill just say that Id have reported it myself had I seen it. His response was, IMO correct and justified.

The name was both offensive..and racist.

[CKNovel]

He was pretty chill during his streams and enjoys the game.

I don't get why players are acting like kids to get on the screen or straight-up use a big mount on top of the NPC? That's being lower than a kid or a monkey.

This behavior is not only a shame to the community but the GMs as well. It's been years since we've been complaining about the permanent marks on accounts, about the ridiculous bans, about how harsh the slips when chatting are judged... And they won't do anything when there is a visual proof of griefing?
There's less people on his screen, some may have been indeed banned for a duration.