Harassment to Asmongold on his 1st day stream is an Embarassment to FF Community

[Arazehl]

God forbid if Yoshi P logged onto Cactuar for a visit and news got around. Is he sure he wants to implement the cross world visits?

[Artemiz]

I encourage everyone who sees someone griefing Asmon or any people coming over from WoW to report them. This has been a bad look for the FFXIV community in front of 100k people watching on Twitch.

This, 100%. To be fair to GM's it's a lot of people to try and deal with, and Asmon can't report everyone himself or he would be at it all day. For all those who think, who know our community is better than this we can do our part. And yeah, that goes for all griefing, not just Asmon.

[YatoShishi]

I didnt know Asmon before all this drama and all I heard is that he did shit on FFXIV before and now tries the game. While I understand that people have mixed feelings about it you also have to understand that nobody here owns FFXIV. Everyone can play, even people you dont like.
If you try to ruin his experience while hes playing because you dont like him or of what he said about the game before, well you are no better then him. Its just pathetic that some people are like "hes not welcome here".
Leave him alone. You are not the guarding of FFXIV. We dont need anyone to gatekeep the game. Its not yours to control whos plays and who doesnt. As a matter of fact if we do not need that toxicity you bring now because he plays the game.
They cry about "toxic wow players" while being the worst of the worst. Ironic.

[Jojoya]

Sorry on this I agreed with his actions. I wont show the name here, Ill just say that Id have reported it myself had I seen it. His response was, IMO correct and justified.

The name was both offensive..and racist.

I never saw the name. If it was offensive, then Asmongold should have just reported it and left it at that.

It is not fine for him to be drawing attention to it and telling his viewers to report it like he did. If his viewers had found the name offensive, they would have already reported it on their own. When they're only reporting it because Asmongold has told them to do it, it's an abuse of the system. It's something Asmongold got suspended for doing in the past including one instance where he had his followers report him. When he tried to use the "I did nothing wrong to deserve a suspension" defense, Blizzard pointed out that he encouraged his viewer to abuse the system.

God forbid if Yoshi P logged onto Cactuar for a visit and news got around. Is he sure he wants to implement the cross world visits?

He already did visits to a couple of the NA data center worlds after the reorganization in 2019. As expected, the areas were packed with players who wanted to say they were there just as players were doing that with Asmongold this weekend.

Being present isn't necessary harassment. Some of those present were harassing Asmongold. Most were not and were probably just trying to be seen in the stream or watch what was going on "in person".

But short of those who were evidently saying things in shout chat trying to get others to prevent him from playing (hopefully those players end up in the gaol this week), there's probably no not enough evidence of a specific intent to harass for SE to take action.

[Kolsykol]

I never saw the name. If it was offensive, then Asmongold should have just reported it and left it at that.

It is not fine for him to be drawing attention to it and telling his viewers to report it like he did. If his viewers had found the name offensive, they would have already reported it on their own. When they're only reporting it because Asmongold has told them to do it, it's an abuse of the system. It's something Asmongold got suspended for doing in the past including one instance where he had his followers report him. When he tried to use the "I did nothing wrong to deserve a suspension" defense, Blizzard pointed out that he encouraged his viewer to abuse the system.

I don't really agree with this at all, if someone is breaking the rules and you tell your viewers to report I think it's just common sense at least when it's genuinely offensive.
If it was just some dude who was rude one time then I wouldn't rly agree with it.
But when it's someone with a racist name I think it's perfectly fine to tell them to report.

Think about the kind of person that even names their character a racist way too, it's pretty fair to assume that people like that are also up to other things that deserves a ban.
I do report people for it too and I did it in WoW as well, I think running around with a name that is clearly deliberately meant to be racist is pretty different than someone having a bad day or just a bad moment and being rude one time.

I don't think that Asmongold have ever had a racist name either, when I think of an offensive name I don't think of someone just naming their character like '' dickface '' or something.
I think of people with blatantly racist or sexist names, for example in WoW Classic I remember someone who had named their character lets just say '' do something very bad to women who are dogs and your body fluids '' in Danish.
Yeah I'll report that.
And if I was a streamer I'd tell my viewers to do it too.

Abusing the system would be telling people to report someone because they're named '' dickface '' and it upsets you.

[Allegor]

Abusing the system would be 'report this guy for winning the loot I wanted lol', not 'report this guy for having the N word on their name' - they would've been reported anyways, but the fact Asmon saw it and called it out live simply made the process much faster

[Rae88]

I never saw the name. If it was offensive, then Asmongold should have just reported it and left it at that.

It is not fine for him to be drawing attention to it and telling his viewers to report it like he did. If his viewers had found the name offensive, they would have already reported it on their own.

The person in question had the N gamer word in their name. It's an insta ban.

Asmon also gets his viewers to mass report bots. I also don't have a problem with this.

[Kolsykol]

The person in question had the N gamer word in their name. It's an insta ban.

Asmon also gets his viewers to mass report bots. I also don't have a problem with this.

Lol I remember on one stream he sat around watching A LOT of bots in an area and was reporting them with viewers, Blizzard actually ported them to another layer instead of dealing with the bots.
At first he thought they had banned the bots then they managed to swap back to the layer and they were all still there.
The bot situation is just hopeless.

I remember seeing a lot of bots in Limsa in past expansion especially ARR and Heavensward, nowadays I rly don't see them at all.

[Penthea]

An unintended perk of FFXIV for content creators is the cutscenes. Asmon actually gets a break from the crowds and doesn't have them spoil important scenes. It's nice to see that the swarm of players who follow him can't entirely ruin his experience.

I have watched both his FFXIV streams and the crowds did die down. Clearly many just wanted to be there the first time he logged in and given that can only happen once, some stopped crowding around him. In the first stream as the night went on the crowd got smaller. In the second stream the crowd was still big but still not as enormous as his first log in. I think that as time passes the crowds will get smaller and smaller. It won't completely disappear, but many will eventually get bored of stalking him given he rarely acknowledges them.

As for who is at fault here, it isn't a single group. Yes some are awful people who intend to disrupt his experience in the game, but some are his fans. I have been watching Asmon for quite a long time and you can see from his chat many of his followers do play FFXIV. Not all the max lvl players following him are anti-fans trying to ruin his day. Some are just obsessed fans who happen to play FFXIV. Furthermore he gets crowded in the same way in every game he plays. What he is experiencing in FFXIV right now isn't new to him at all. That doesn't make it okay, but it does mean it's not just salty or obsessive FFXIV players who do this sort of thing.

[VelKallor]

Rae, I was kinda reluctant to discuss the name..sorta wanted to leave that alone.

But thank you