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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I mean, the procs have absolutely nothing to do with the existence of the job gauge, and the job gauge would operate just fine without the RNG.
    To borrow your words...

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Well this is simply not true.
    Yes, removing the RNG would remove Jolt as a button-press, but it would also remove Black and White mana as anything more than remembering whether you hit most recently hit Button Type A or Button Type B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Yes, removing the RNG would remove Jolt as a button-press, but it would also remove Black and White mana as anything more than remembering whether you hit most recently hit Button Type A or Button Type B.
    Black and White Mana essentially are not much more than that already. Some of you seem to believe the modest amounts of RNG in this job's toolkit are more significant than they actually are.

    Here's the bottom line: The Job gauge operates just fine with or without RNG. Removing RNG won't suddenly change the fact that fire gives you one side and stone gives you the other. That is the foundation of the balance gauge, not RNG. I am very confused why there are soooo many people here who mistakenly believe RNG is necessary for the balance gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Black and White Mana essentially are not much more than that already.
    "Well, a half a real mechanic isn't much, so let's remove it altogether. Surely there are no options whatsoever in the opposite direction."

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Some of you seem to believe the modest amounts of RNG in this job's toolkit are more significant than they actually are.
    I believe it doesn't amount to much. I also don't think RNG is the godsend some others may imply. But I disagree that the job gauge, which has only faint backing mechanics at present, would do as well with absolutely no (or only a pretense of) backing mechanics.

    If you give me an a better alternative by which to instill depth into RDM, I'd be quick to follow up on it and likely promote it. If your only suggested change is to sweep away what little is present, I will of course challenge that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    "Well, a half a real mechanic isn't much, so let's remove it altogether. Surely there are no options whatsoever in the opposite direction."


    I believe it doesn't amount to much. I also don't think RNG is the godsend some others may imply. But I disagree that the job gauge, which has only faint backing mechanics at present, would do as well with absolutely no (or only a pretense of) backing mechanics.

    If you give me an a better alternative by which to instill depth into RDM, I'd be quick to follow up on it and likely promote it. If your only suggested change is to sweep away what little is present, I will of course challenge that.
    I don't know where you're getting the idea that the only thing I want for RDM is to dump RNG. Nowhere did I ever say anything of the sort, in fact I have consistently argued that in addition to removing RNG the job simply needs more going on for it. Dumping RNG and performing the melee combo on a cooldown similar to the GNB's continuation combo would open up more options for allowing the job gauge to be used on *other things*.

    Next time, please ensure you have some clue what someone is actually pushing for before making lame assumptions based on nothing.
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