Doxxers using lodestone and fflogs to harass people

[SturmChurro]

What information are they receiving from your lodestone? Your... ingame achievements? You can hide this. Your mounts, minions, and classes? How is this private information that could lead to your identity?

Your posting is disingenuous. Either be honest with what's going on or expect people to be suspicious.

Edit: Also, FFLogs is public information that YOU chose to put out there, and is a website final fantasy 14 has no affiliation with. Go to their developers if you want your information removed from their website.

Agreed. It's just a game character. I'm not sure what private information is being or could be supposedly leaked via this. However, other players can upload your parses. If I recall correctly, you have to manually add a code to your lodestone character profile to hide this information. Either way, yes there are avenues to hide much of this information.

The only issue I am seeing here is that perhaps the OP wants to hide all traces of their character, to avoid potential ridicule on that website - for whatever reason. Though, granted, I have seen some legitimate concerns by users who say they have been stalked by other players of this game, and a lodestone is an easy way to find them, despite name changes or server transfer (not that I've ever personally had this issue).

[Doog_Slayer]

Agreed. It's just a game character. I'm not sure what private information is being or could be supposedly leaked via this. However, other players can upload your parses. If I recall correctly, you have to manually add a code to your lodestone character profile to hide this information. Either way, yes there are avenues to hide much of this information.

The only issue I am seeing here is that perhaps the OP wants to hide all traces of their character, to avoid potential ridicule on that website - for whatever reason. Though, granted, I have seen some legitimate concerns by users who say they have been stalked by other players of this game, and a lodestone is an easy way to find them, despite name changes or server transfer (not that I've ever personally had this issue).

Yes. As far as I can tell your character has a specific url that people can bookmark to then follow you whenever you name change or server transfer. if I'm right in assuming there is no way to change that, they can just folow you to the ends of the earth.

[MilkieTea]

However, other players can upload your parses. If I recall correctly, you have to manually add a code to your lodestone character profile to hide this information. Either way, yes there are avenues to hide much of this information.

Whoops, forgot about that. I don't use FFlogs, find the process much too much work for me to do now, lol. Either way, the information can be removed/hidden.

Though, if people on Kiwifarms are actively stalking the user by using their lodestone profile to figure out where they are, that's different. I had to make a new character to shift away from an abusive friendship situation about 3 weeks after I joined the game (out of game shenanigans, but still). If people from Kiwifarms are actively stalking you, report them to Kiwifarms admins with proof, OP, and they'll get banned, as Kiwifarms has a very strict harassment policy.

But they can't doxx you with the information available on the lodestone.

[Doog_Slayer]

Whoops, forgot about that. I don't use FFlogs, find the process much too much work for me to do now, lol. Either way, the information can be removed/hidden.

Though, if people on Kiwifarms are actively stalking the user by using their lodestone profile to figure out where they are, that's different. I had to make a new character to shift away from an abusive friendship situation about 3 weeks after I joined the game (out of game shenanigans, but still). If people from Kiwifarms are actively stalking you, report them to Kiwifarms admins with proof, OP, and they'll get banned, as Kiwifarms has a very strict harassment policy.

But they can't doxx you with the information available on the lodestone.

I've @ed the admin with proof of users stalking me on steam from kiwi farms. They were never banned, and even gloated about how they wouldn't be.

The "no autistic trolling plans" rule no longer seems to apply. Again, kiwi farms is a secondary issue.

[MilkieTea]

I've PMed the admin with proof of users stalking me on steam from kiwi farms. They were never banned, and even gloated about how they wouldn't be.

The "no autistic trolling plans" rule no longer seems to apply. Again, kiwi farms is a secondary issue.

Did they actively engage you, or did they just send screenshots of what you were posting? These are two different things.

Part of the reason I'm trying to figure out this stuff is to help. (Another part is morbid curiosity, mind you, but that's separate.) As much as you think it doesn't help to know the exact why's and how's, it does. So I'll ask again: What information are they receiving from your lodestone? Your... ingame achievements? You can hide this. Your mounts, minions, and classes? How is this private information that could lead to your identity?

You're not answering that. You're saying they're trying to use this info to gather private information on you, but HOW?

[Doog_Slayer]

Did they actively engage you, or did they just send screenshots of what you were posting? These are two different things.

Part of the reason I'm trying to figure out this stuff is to help. (Another part is morbid curiosity, mind you, but that's separate.) As much as you think it doesn't help to know the exact why's and how's, it does. So I'll ask again: What information are they receiving from your lodestone? Your... ingame achievements? You can hide this. Your mounts, minions, and classes? How is this private information that could lead to your identity?

You're not answering that. You're saying they're trying to use this info to gather private information on you, but HOW?

Dude... YES. I DID ANSWER.

Again, I don't want to be stalked in game. How many more times do I need to say it for you?


YES. THEY HAVE INTERACTED WITH ME ON STEAM. One of them even admitted to being a user who interacted with me on steam, and the other uses the same character as a profile pic and a name on both steam and kiwi farms.
As for what personal information could they gather, how should I know? I DON'T DOX PEOPLE.

What I DO know is they use google caches, frequently track down people's online photos and etc. using obscure means. I personally have no personal information on the internet. As I said before: other innocent people are likely being abused by them as well. THAT IS MY PEROGATIVE IN EGGING THEM ON. KIWI FARMS IS A SECONDARY ISSUE.

[MilkieTea]

Dude... YES. I DID ANSWER.

Again, I don't want to be stalked in game. How many more times do I need to say it for you?


YES. THEY HAVE INTERACTED WITH ME ON STEAM. One of them even admitted to being a user who interacted with me on steam, and the other uses the same character as a profile pic and a name on both steam and kiwi farms.
As for what personal information could they gather, how should I know? I DON'T DOX PEOPLE.

What I DO know is they use google caches, frequently track down people's online photos and etc. using obscure means. I personally have no personal information on the internet. As I said before: other innocent people are likely being abused by them as well. THAT IS MY PEROGATIVE IN EGGING THEM ON. KIWI FARMS IS A SECONDARY ISSUE.

Then answer the questions again, to humor me:

1. What information are they receiving from your lodestone?

2. Are they receiving information on your ingame achievements? You can hide this in your lodestone settings.

3. Are they receiving information on your mounts, minions, and classes? How do you think this information could lead to your IRL identity?

It's fine if you don't want them to talk about your mounts and minions. But I fail to see how your information on the Lodestone could lead to your IRL identity, please help me see this.

[SturmChurro]

But I fail to see how your information on the Lodestone could lead to your IRL identity, please help me see this.

I'll humor it and say, well if someone knows your character name, and you share this character (with name attached) on social media, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. and in turn have personal information on those websites, like location, face, etc.. There is a thread here that can lead to personal information, but that would be down to the own personal responsibility of the owner of these accounts, and what they share. No fault of SE here, except the reasonable complaints about in-game stalking, by players using the lodestone URL.

[Shibi]

OP stop egging them on, stop provoking them. Get off the interwebs and go dark if needed, but for Halone's sake stop egging them on. They only do this because you yourself cause it.

The more air you give them, the funnier they will think it is to keep harrassing you. Conversely, the less air you give them then the sooner they get bored and head off to find a new cow to milk.

Then again; if you enjoy the sparring, and want to keep it up, then don't bring in SE to clean up your mess-stained sheets. Don't expect them to make you a safe haven you can keep poking the hornet's nest from.

...If there are ways to glean information from the lodestone, I'd be extremely concerned. (Unless it's something like, your real life name being used as your character name... in which case... why?)

Yep, this would be my concern too, but I do think as you suggest, it would be something silly the user in question did. Using a real life name, or using a character name on multiple services - including twitter/faecesbook - that google can link.