Question about the 2.0 zones in Endwalker

[Sotaris]

What do you mean?

[Kaliesto]

What do you mean?

Trailer suggested the 2.0 zones are going to hell in a handbasket, I was wondering if there is going to be a major change to reflect that?

[Enkidoh]

Trailer suggested the 2.0 zones are going to hell in a handbasket, I was wondering if there is going to be a major change to reflect that?

Probably not, at least, nothing substantial, and what there is will almost definetely be instanced. As the existing zones have to remain as they are for new players just joining (this is why the Foundation of Ishgard has remained in ruins permenantly and was completely ignored by the Reconstruction effort - it needs to be so for the benefit of players just arrived that from their perspective have just arrived after the Horde ransacked the place).

Basically, never trust a trailer, they usually stylized at the very least.

[ReynTime]

Probably not, at least, nothing substantial, and what there is will almost definetely be instanced. As the existing zones have to remain as they are for new players just joining (this is why the Foundation of Ishgard has remained in ruins permenantly and was completely ignored by the Reconstruction effort - it needs to be so for the benefit of players just arrived that from their perspective have just arrived after the Horde ransacked the place).

Basically, never trust a trailer, they usually stylized at the very least.

Doman Enclave?

[wereotter]

Probably not, at least, nothing substantial, and what there is will almost definetely be instanced. As the existing zones have to remain as they are for new players just joining (this is why the Foundation of Ishgard has remained in ruins permenantly and was completely ignored by the Reconstruction effort - it needs to be so for the benefit of players just arrived that from their perspective have just arrived after the Horde ransacked the place).

Basically, never trust a trailer, they usually stylized at the very least.

They've already shown they can make adjustments to zones that are based off story or tasks you've completed, so this isn't entirely correct. For example when playing with my ex a few years back, his version of the Churning Mists was different from mine because he hadn't done the moogle beast tribe quests to rebuild the plaza while I had. Also they can do things like changing skyboxes, like how after Baelsar's Wall there's a different sky than before which lasts for a patch or two, and how even right now there are new elements in the distance that people who haven't reached the end of the current story line won't see.

Even just the shadowbringers zones have changes every time you defeat a light warden that change the zones for those who have progressed the story that far and those who have not.

[Shurrikhan]

Probably not, at least, nothing substantial, and what there is will almost definetely be instanced. As the existing zones have to remain as they are for new players just joining (this is why the Foundation of Ishgard has remained in ruins permenantly and was completely ignored by the Reconstruction effort - it needs to be so for the benefit of players just arrived that from their perspective have just arrived after the Horde ransacked the place).

Not necessarily. Note Alexander, for instance. I could have sworn new players will not see him in Dravidian Hinterlands until they reach that part in their questline, regardless of how the zone appears to those who've already reached that part in the story. Foundation could have done much the same.

[Jojoya]

I don't think we'll be spending enough time in the La Noscea/Thanalan/Black Shroud zones for SE to remake them for 6.0. At most, we might have a solo instanced duty with the zones being instanced to handle the heavy traffic at launch.

If there was going to be an entirely new La Noscea zone, I would imagine it would have been unveiled at the Fan Fest.

Not necessarily. Note Alexander, for instance. I could have sworn new players will not see him in Dravidian Hinterlands until they reach that part in their questline, regardless of how the zone appears to those who've already reached that part in the story. Foundation could have done much the same.

Right. The bubble is there but appears to be empty at first. Parts of Alexander don't appear until the 3.0 MSQ is completed and then another change when the player continues deeper into the raid quests. But most of the change occurs inside the bubble where players can't go (the spots where the "hands" appear for the raid portals being exceptions).

We do see changes to parts of zones for many of the beast tribes and Doman Enclave but other than Doman Enclave, those specific locations aren't part of MSQ or you're past the point where the location is relevant to the MSQ before you can unlock the beast tribe.

What changes we've seen that are directly related to MSQ have tended to be backdrop/skybox. It's likely to avoid continuity issues if friends are helping friends. It's still a problem in a few spots (the Magitek Shield Wall in Yanxia is an example) but I'm sure SE would prefer to limit those problem places.

[Shurrikhan]

Right. The bubble is there but appears to be empty at first. Parts of Alexander don't appear until the 3.0 MSQ is completed and then another change when the player continues deeper into the raid quests. But most of the change occurs inside the bubble where players can't go (the spots where the "hands" appear for the raid portals being exceptions).

Ahh, shoot, yeah that makes the visuals largely irrelevant then, unless they could maintain the very same collision boxes (which, actually, could probably occur for most of the Foundation's mess).

Though I have to wonder why one of the newest MMOs has managed so little in regards to phasing that even far older MMOs have long since been capable of...

Heck, it's not like we couldn't greatly benefit from our quests being more than just "run from shiny right-click circle to purple punch-punch circle to shiny right-click circle" regardless...