Parsers add replayability for casual players

[RushRiviera]

Okay, what about an alphabetical rating system (A, B, C etc.) BUT, the lowest rank is A, and that A rank encompasses 60-70% of the playerbase. Above A there could be S, S+, S++ etc. depending on how specific you want the tiers.

This means it is impossible to know someone's exact skill from them being in the lowest rank, as that is 60-70% of players. This means it can't be used for harassment.

Also, nobody will get their feelings hurt because everyone gets at least an A rank.

And finally, it still gives an opportunity for those that care to gauge their skill level without being too specific. You could literally make the S+ rank set to the minimum threshold required for the ultimate version of that duty etc. This lets the more serious players know if their performance meets the requirements for high-end duties without hurting anyone's feelings and eliminating the risk of harassment.

Would anybody have any issues with this system?

[linayar]

Would anybody have any issues with this system?

I personally have no issues with a rating system, but I don't know if that's something the devs would care to develop and maintain through various job and battle system changes over various patches throughout an expansion, let alone into future expansions with an ever growing list of jobs and duties.

They can't even make duty recorder work for all duties.

[RushRiviera]

I personally have no issues with a rating system, but I don't know if that's something the devs would care to develop and maintain through various job and battle system changes over various patches throughout an expansion, let alone into future expansions with an ever growing list of jobs and duties.

They can't even make duty recorder work for all duties.

They could call it "Damage Rating" and it could literally be just a set of universal thresholds where x dps = x rating. And then, like people currently do with parsing plugins, the player could manually determine which rating is good enough for which job in a specific high-end duty.

As long as the lowest rating corresponds to 70% of the playerbase, which means the A rating is normal.

[Wavaryen]

I kinda get where you are coming from. We shouldn't be dictating anothers gameplay.
But, how are they supposed to understand anything if you are not allowed to talk to them and suggest improvements?

I have a golden rule about that. If someone whispers after the run asking if I want some advice or something. (or my wife.) That means to myself they care enough to help and improve. However, telling me during the run in front of everyone is just for yourself to get the dungeon done. So I will ignore it.


Now, that is just for my class. I play a Sam so it is not like it is that hard. And if I mess up, I will say why like I'm having trouble with a part. I'm strange when it comes to this sorta thing, but I'm trying to look at it from both sides. Some people just don't care to get better or want others advice. They play how they want.

[Baxcel]

I mean in DF I sometimes already boot first time players in certain dungeons if they are playing crital roles cause I rather not deal with it. Sure it may be rude and a asshole response but end of the day if the group wants a certain standard I do not see why it is such a large issue.

Wow I wish we could downvote or give negative to thr like system because this is toxic as it comes.. I mean I've seen some of the stuff you post here all the time and yeah it's all basically this bad when it comes to insulting and attacking new players.. just because your a speed junkie whose gotta clear a new dungeon in a third of a second dosnt mean you should be able to treat people like that.. go level up some dam trusts and stay outta the roulettes..

[Awha]

Wow I wish we could downvote or give negative to thr like system because this is toxic as it comes.. I mean I've seen some of the stuff you post here all the time and yeah it's all basically this bad when it comes to insulting and attacking new players.. just because your a speed junkie whose gotta clear a new dungeon in a third of a second dosnt mean you should be able to treat people like that.. go level up some dam trusts and stay outta the roulettes..

Though once again how is it toxic to not want to deal with certain things one finds inconvenient? If the vote pass or people set up PF to exlude such people where exactly is the issue? Or is exclusion just toxic in nature and I just did not get the memo?

[Quintessa]

Toxic is such an over used word. It doesn't feel like it even fits for this community.

Yes though, people badly want parsers to be 'legalized' as it will enable them to be nasty towards others in dungeon content.

[Awha]

Toxic is such an over used word. It doesn't feel like it even fits for this community.

Yes though, people badly want parsers to be 'legalized' as it will enable them to be nasty towards others in dungeon content.

To fair those who treat others poorly will do so with or without them.

[ForteNightshade]

Not 'poor gear'. Not having gear that is at least 30 iLevels above that required for the content.

Meh, it was a thing. You apparently never lived through those days in WoW.

Which goes back to my first response to you. Why are you entitled to join their party? This isn't DF where you're randomly slotted into a party nor are players putting these restrictions preventing you from accessing the content. You're perfectly capable of making your own PF without "at least 30 ilvls above the requirement" stipulation.

[Absurdity]

But people lose it if a dungeon takes more than 10 or 15 minutes, even those from ShB where there is the Trust metric to go by. So we're not even using the metric that SE is giving us.

Regardless of how long you think a dungeon should take, Trusts are not a metric to go by, they use abilities that the normal jobs don't have and out of the abilities they should have they use maybe 30% at best.