[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[Conando]

Considering they’re rabbit people, it only makes sense for the boys to be smaller than the girls.

[Amnmaat]

Considering they’re rabbit people, it only makes sense for the boys to be smaller than the girls.

The problem with that argument is precedence, as well as the fact that they're being added at different times so female Viera cannot be made taller now since they're in live servers. Male Viera being the same height or shorter than female Viera would put them on the short side of the male height chart, very close to being a miqo'te with rabbit ears. If creating a race's height based on the animal ears they have then female Viera should have been very short (shorter than female Miqo'te). I don't think height should be determined by the animal parts they have; and it's very incosistent in the FF universe. Again, female Viera would've been more like what you see in Blue Protocol.

This should've been what Viera should've been if we were so gung-ho about basing it on real life rabbit physique
This would be the correct situation if we adhere to that mandate

[Conando]

If that’s Blue Protocol down there, that’s really not realistic to rabbit “physique”. Females are larger and bulkier, even as a small animal they are not petite.

[Amnmaat]

That's even worse, you want fat and short female Viera? Also, I don't get what you mean about rabbits not being petite? I would never describe rabbits as being anything but petite.

This is why we have beast and humans with animal appendages races. That whole thing about swirling an animal and a human physical traits is never a good situation. Hrothgar, where it's basically an animal on 2 feet is where such things work better.

[Komarimono]

Too lazy to quote multiple people, blame my just waking up for work in a few hours.

Reason why people are bringing up lore and height, every lore reference we've ever had regarding Viera and Males, always describes them as solitary, small, feral like nature, aggressive.

Many sites exist, that compile all the lore there is for races throughout history. https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...7699/the-viera being one of them, and a nice reference for making characters for roleplay as well. This is why people bring up lore and height. They also tend to bring up lore, since if lore didn't matter in game, why are things required now for MSQ in Shadowbringers just because of lore?

Not my reasoning, but a valid one for people to bring up. I used to think male viera would be silly to add. Now, honestly, let them do whatever, any size etc. They gave up on race lore a while ago I feel since too hard to incorporate due to community backlash of wanting to be what they want to be.

[Sophie_Lo]

In the wild, female rabbits tend to be larger in general than their male counterparts. Even nature supports short viera males. :3

[KizuyaKatogami]

Too lazy to quote multiple people, blame my just waking up for work in a few hours.

Reason why people are bringing up lore and height, every lore reference we've ever had regarding Viera and Males, always describes them as solitary, small, feral like nature, aggressive.

Many sites exist, that compile all the lore there is for races throughout history. https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...7699/the-viera being one of them, and a nice reference for making characters for roleplay as well. This is why people bring up lore and height. They also tend to bring up lore, since if lore didn't matter in game, why are things required now for MSQ in Shadowbringers just because of lore?

Not my reasoning, but a valid one for people to bring up. I used to think male viera would be silly to add. Now, honestly, let them do whatever, any size etc. They gave up on race lore a while ago I feel since too hard to incorporate due to community backlash of wanting to be what they want to be.

No lore given in 14 has ever described them as small. That’s a fact. As for people comparing real life bunnies and nature. That’s in our world, not 14’s. Two completely different things. Afaik they haven’t used real life modes of animals for races so i don’t see why they’d start now. It seems like people are trying to find every scrap they can to try and make short male viera a reality. Yoshi p himself has stated the opposite.

[Sophie_Lo]

I don't recall that Yoshi P stated their height at all.

[AvenoMatt]

So just gonna share my thoughts but I'd like to see male viera to be shorter then females on average. My thinking is give them a height similar to female highlander or give them a height that is between midlander and highlander. At max height they are close to the females mid range. This way then end up being taller then miqo'tes and midlander but aren't really a tall race just on the high end of average.

[Amnmaat]

So just gonna share my thoughts but I'd like to see male viera to be shorter then females on average. My thinking is give them a height similar to female highlander or give them a height that is between midlander and highlander. At max height they are close to the females mid range. This way then end up being taller then miqo'tes and midlander but aren't really a tall race just on the high end of average.

Wouldn't that just make them a slightly taller miqo'te or a midlander with rabbit ears?
The tall side has nothing remotely human outside of Elezen, and we know how even Elezen have these really unnatural heads, shoulders, lanky arms, and same-face issues.