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  1. #421
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    In regards to the height, I think the suggestion of the men being shorter than the women could be accomplished by making female Hrothgar taller than their male counterparts.

    Personally I think it'd be fine if male Viera were of equal or greater height to their female counterparts. After all, it's been a very common request over the years for an alternative option that is tall, classically handsome and conventionally attractive to be added for those of us who like to play as male characters.

    I don't think it'd make much sense for both of what are likely to be the last races altogether or for quite some time to subscribe to niche aesthetics.

    Though based on the investigations done in regards to their height with what we have so far, it seems like they're on the taller side of things. So I'm happy, personally - they're not as slim, feminine or androgynous as some of the suggestions were pushing for over the years.

    They have a nice amount of muscle to them, so they're toned and athletic rather than skinny - and the proportions are an improved version of the Elezen model which is also what a lot of players were pushing for.
    Female hrothgar could actually look taller than males too, if they aren't hunched. Like, even if they were the same height or slightly shorter than males, and I don't see any reason for SE to make the females hunched.

    My only gripe with male viera now is that I wished they looked just a little older, like 5+ years or so, and I would have liked to see some options like stubble in their trailer. Maybe when the benchmark comes out. Perhaps they will have that more mature face option, one that wasn't revealed in the trailer. As it really looks like they only showed 3 face options.
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  2. #422
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie_Lo View Post
    I don't recall that Yoshi P stated their height at all.
    He equated their appearance to Male Elezen and said he would want to stay away from a miqote-like appearance.
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  3. #423
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    That's even worse, you want fat and short female Viera? Also, I don't get what you mean about rabbits not being petite? I would never describe rabbits as being anything but petite.
    Rabbits are muscular little animals, especially the does.
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  4. #424
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvenoMatt View Post
    Female hrothgar on the same level as male roes in height. A nice contrast to au ras. Plus since Hrothgars are a matriarchy race that seem a little savage it would make sense that the reason why females are on top isn't just because they are rare but because they stronger. Think hyenas, females are the dominant ones because they are bigger and more aggressive.
    Cat, and Lions dont quite work that way but I do see where your coming from.
    Plus the Females are refered to as 'Their Queens" Hmm, Im not against it, plus its another step towards my big, strong and tall dream for them. :3
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  5. #425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    This. It would be also make them unique in that they would be the only race to have the same average height range between males and females.
    uhmmm no, they won't be unique: Lalafells already have same height range, so there's technically a precedence.

    That said, there is a possibilty that that's what we'll see in benchmark. They don't seem to be bigger than females in trailer (or not a lot bigger, at least).
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  6. #426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Though based on the investigations done in regards to their height with what we have so far, it seems like they're on the taller side of things. So I'm happy, personally - they're not as slim, feminine or androgynous as some of the suggestions were pushing for over the years.

    They have a nice amount of muscle to them, so they're toned and athletic rather than skinny - and the proportions are an improved version of the Elezen model which is also what a lot of players were pushing for.
    Agreed! They look phenomenal. The team did a great job.

    Apparently, Matsuno is also very happy with how the male Viera turned out.

    According to a comment in Mr. Happy's video, Matsuno stated on his Twitter that the males are different than what he had in mind, but he loves what the devs did with them and plans on using a fantasia to play as one.

    I couldn't find Matsuno's twitter to confirm though.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    My only gripe with male viera now is that I wished they looked just a little older, like 5+ years or so, and I would have liked to see some options like stubble in their trailer. Maybe when the benchmark comes out. Perhaps they will have that more mature face option, one that wasn't revealed in the trailer. As it really looks like they only showed 3 face options.
    I remember reading in the lore somewhere that Viera retain their youthful appearance even in old age. They don't age like the other races.

    I think it's safe to say the devs kept that in mind as they designed their faces.

    But I don't see why there can't be a mature option. Mature doesn't have to mean old. Male Miqo'te have a mature option too and it still looks young. Maybe that's how the mature face option will look like.

    The female Viera trailer only showcased two of the face options, if I remember right. So it's likely that it's the same case with the male trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunky View Post
    I remember reading in the lore somewhere that Viera retain their youthful appearance even in old age. They don't age like the other races.

    I think it's safe to say the devs kept that in mind as they designed their faces.

    But I don't see why there can't be a mature option. Mature doesn't have to mean old. Male Miqo'te have a mature option too and it still looks young. Maybe that's how the mature face option will look like.

    The female Viera trailer only showcased two of the face options, if I remember right. So it's likely that it's the same case with the male trailer.
    I believe the Dramaturge says it, Viera easily live three times as long as Elezen and retain physical youth for centuries.

    Female Viera has decent (but not great, like most races) variety in their faces with 3 being the "young Elezen face" they talked about and I'd say 4 being the most mature, the other two faces fall somewhere in between.

    They mostly featured face 1 in the female Viera trailer, I thought I saw a face 2 in there as well but someone else said it was only face 1 with different hair/lips/noses/brows/colours and I can see that being the case as well.

    If they only showed variations of face 1 for male Viera as well there's three more they haven't shown, so there should be some variety.
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  8. #428
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    while i think the males are really handsome, i also hope they give some options to make them look a little more feral/rough. they are the protectors of the forest after all and live a mostly harsh live, maybe cool/unqiue scars or tribal face tattoos.
    i personally will probably go for a more tradtional look for my bunboy, kind of a fran look or the first m. viera shown in the trailer!
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  9. #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    while i think the males are really handsome, i also hope they give some options to make them look a little more feral/rough. they are the protectors of the forest after all and live a mostly harsh live, maybe cool/unqiue scars or tribal face tattoos.
    i personally will probably go for a more tradtional look for my bunboy, kind of a fran look or the first m. viera shown in the trailer!
    We saw 3 faces max in the trailer so we will get at least 1 more. The trailer shows 2 young faces and 1 that looks a little bit older, si i don't see why they wouldnt make another "old" or "rough" option.
    Si far we got anime protagonist/sweet boy/"hey babe" dude

    I hope for scars too! I don't think female viera have it tho and both genders have often very similar options ><

    The white hairded male is my favorite too and i'll try this one first haha.
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  10. #430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    while i think the males are really handsome, i also hope they give some options to make them look a little more feral/rough. they are the protectors of the forest after all and live a mostly harsh live, maybe cool/unqiue scars or tribal face tattoos.
    i personally will probably go for a more tradtional look for my bunboy, kind of a fran look or the first m. viera shown in the trailer!
    I kinda want scars in general and maybe like a lost eye or something.
    If I could make Baiken from Guilty Gear for my Samurai then I would.
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