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    Too lazy to quote multiple people, blame my just waking up for work in a few hours.

    Reason why people are bringing up lore and height, every lore reference we've ever had regarding Viera and Males, always describes them as solitary, small, feral like nature, aggressive.

    Many sites exist, that compile all the lore there is for races throughout history. https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...7699/the-viera being one of them, and a nice reference for making characters for roleplay as well. This is why people bring up lore and height. They also tend to bring up lore, since if lore didn't matter in game, why are things required now for MSQ in Shadowbringers just because of lore?

    Not my reasoning, but a valid one for people to bring up. I used to think male viera would be silly to add. Now, honestly, let them do whatever, any size etc. They gave up on race lore a while ago I feel since too hard to incorporate due to community backlash of wanting to be what they want to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Reason why people are bringing up lore and height, every lore reference we've ever had regarding Viera and Males, always describes them as solitary, small, feral like nature, aggressive.

    Many sites exist, that compile all the lore there is for races throughout history. https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...7699/the-viera being one of them, and a nice reference for making characters for roleplay as well. This is why people bring up lore and height. They also tend to bring up lore, since if lore didn't matter in game, why are things required now for MSQ in Shadowbringers just because of lore?
    Your link contradicts your own description in the previous paragraph. All it says is that they are solitary; the "feral and aggressive" seems extrapolated from them living alone in the wood and tasked with the job of shooting intruders on sight, which says nothing about what they'd be like if you met one on good terms. And as far as I can see, it doesn't mention their height at all beyond comparing the race in general to Hyur and Elezen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Your link contradicts your own description in the previous paragraph. All it says is that they are solitary; the "feral and aggressive" seems extrapolated from them living alone in the wood and tasked with the job of shooting intruders on sight, which says nothing about what they'd be like if you met one on good terms. And as far as I can see, it doesn't mention their height at all beyond comparing the race in general to Hyur and Elezen.
    It was just listed as an example. There's dozens of links I could post, but like I said, I don't care about their height. Doesn't help any links you find now, have been edited within the past few days, articles removed like physiology etc, as they wait for males release to update it then. Am all for any size male viera. But some are really strict on their lore as it was, not after retcon.

    Heck, I can't even search Male Viera anymore now, after Fanfest. At page 32, and still updated 6 days ago. Either way. Let them be whatever, lore doesn't matter if it existed at all before.

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    Seems to have come from FFXII, when reach Eruyt Village, minor convo about the Viera, and the booklet that came with the game. If anyone still has that booklet, could clear things up for sure.
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    Last edited by Komarimono; 05-21-2021 at 12:37 PM. Reason: Found stuffs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    It was just listed as an example. There's dozens of links I could post, but like I said, I don't care about their height.
    I don't particularly care about their height either, but I do care about someone saying "all lore points to X" while linking a comprehensive lore post that makes no mention of X.

    If there are dozens of links you can post, post them - or at least one that backs up your claim. If the links have all been edited to remove inaccurate information, then they can't have been reliable canon to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't particularly care about their height either, but I do care about someone saying "all lore points to X" while linking a comprehensive lore post that makes no mention of X.

    If there are dozens of links you can post, post them - or at least one that backs up your claim. If the links have all been edited to remove inaccurate information, then they can't have been reliable canon to begin with.
    I actually can't! I went back to check the links this morning. 404, page no longer exists, and the rest fanfic. I am greatly mistaken and apologize!
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