[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[Iscah]

Reason why people are bringing up lore and height, every lore reference we've ever had regarding Viera and Males, always describes them as solitary, small, feral like nature, aggressive.

Many sites exist, that compile all the lore there is for races throughout history. https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...7699/the-viera being one of them, and a nice reference for making characters for roleplay as well. This is why people bring up lore and height. They also tend to bring up lore, since if lore didn't matter in game, why are things required now for MSQ in Shadowbringers just because of lore?

Your link contradicts your own description in the previous paragraph. All it says is that they are solitary; the "feral and aggressive" seems extrapolated from them living alone in the wood and tasked with the job of shooting intruders on sight, which says nothing about what they'd be like if you met one on good terms. And as far as I can see, it doesn't mention their height at all beyond comparing the race in general to Hyur and Elezen.

[Sophie_Lo]

This. This is all that I ask for.
Not a microscopic man bun, just a man bun that stands a few ilms shorter than la femme buns.

[Komarimono]

Your link contradicts your own description in the previous paragraph. All it says is that they are solitary; the "feral and aggressive" seems extrapolated from them living alone in the wood and tasked with the job of shooting intruders on sight, which says nothing about what they'd be like if you met one on good terms. And as far as I can see, it doesn't mention their height at all beyond comparing the race in general to Hyur and Elezen.

It was just listed as an example. There's dozens of links I could post, but like I said, I don't care about their height. Doesn't help any links you find now, have been edited within the past few days, articles removed like physiology etc, as they wait for males release to update it then. Am all for any size male viera. But some are really strict on their lore as it was, not after retcon.

Heck, I can't even search Male Viera anymore now, after Fanfest. At page 32, and still updated 6 days ago. Either way. Let them be whatever, lore doesn't matter if it existed at all before.

Edit:
Seems to have come from FFXII, when reach Eruyt Village, minor convo about the Viera, and the booklet that came with the game. If anyone still has that booklet, could clear things up for sure.

[Awha]

Wouldn't the easier solution be to give them the same height slider as the female range? Let people pick

[Iscah]

It was just listed as an example. There's dozens of links I could post, but like I said, I don't care about their height.

I don't particularly care about their height either, but I do care about someone saying "all lore points to X" while linking a comprehensive lore post that makes no mention of X.

If there are dozens of links you can post, post them - or at least one that backs up your claim. If the links have all been edited to remove inaccurate information, then they can't have been reliable canon to begin with.

[AvenoMatt]

Wouldn't that just make them a slightly taller miqo'te or a midlander with rabbit ears?
The tall side has nothing remotely human outside of Elezen, and we know how even Elezen have these really unnatural heads, shoulders, lanky arms, and same-face issues.

I thi k the difference in height would make then stand out enough from miqo'tes but honestly I think they'll be around the same height or taller then female. I mean then appearances makes then look tallish.

[Destati]

Wouldn't the easier solution be to give them the same height slider as the female range? Let people pick

This. It would be also make them unique in that they would be the only race to have the same average height range between males and females.

[Senn]

Wouldn't the easier solution be to give them the same height slider as the female range? Let people pick

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they had the same exact height range as the females.

[Theodric]

In regards to the height, I think the suggestion of the men being shorter than the women could be accomplished by making female Hrothgar taller than their male counterparts.

Personally I think it'd be fine if male Viera were of equal or greater height to their female counterparts. After all, it's been a very common request over the years for an alternative option that is tall, classically handsome and conventionally attractive to be added for those of us who like to play as male characters.

I don't think it'd make much sense for both of what are likely to be the last races altogether or for quite some time to subscribe to niche aesthetics.

Though based on the investigations done in regards to their height with what we have so far, it seems like they're on the taller side of things. So I'm happy, personally - they're not as slim, feminine or androgynous as some of the suggestions were pushing for over the years.

They have a nice amount of muscle to them, so they're toned and athletic rather than skinny - and the proportions are an improved version of the Elezen model which is also what a lot of players were pushing for.

[AvenoMatt]

Female hrothgar on the same level as male roes in height. A nice contrast to au ras. Plus since Hrothgars are a matriarchy race that seem a little savage it would make sense that the reason why females are on top isn't just because they are rare but because they stronger. Think hyenas, females are the dominant ones because they are bigger and more aggressive.