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  1. #14061
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post


    Judging by the image it appears male Viera are about a head and a half shorter than the females. So it seems the renders are somewhat accurate.

    Credits to @Blessed_Dancer
    I hope this is true, it would make all my predictions/dreams about male viera accurate.
    And to me they do feel shorter, proportions-wise, let's hope they give us more data on that.
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  2. #14062
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    I'm really happy we're not getting new hairstyles or hats for Viera & Hrothgar or fixing any problems with them or updating the older races!

    It's really great that another gender is being added first without addressing the existing races issues, which means the added genders will suffer the same issues because not many people seemed to recognize any issues or care about the existing viera & hrothgar problem

    It really is good news that male viera & female hrothgar will suffer the same issues!
    Goodjob, guys!
    (3)

  3. #14063
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post


    Judging by the image it appears male Viera are about a head and a half shorter than the females. So it seems the renders are somewhat accurate.

    Credits to @Blessed_Dancer
    Ooh interesting, but is that a Max height female Viera compared to a max height male Viera or a min height male Viera, we don't know yet, so it may just be possible that male Viera can be shorter than the females and height slider can be adjusted to allow taller male Viera that could be equal or higher than female Vieras can go.

    Benchmark can't come soon enough
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  4. #14064
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    Rajesh Anand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post


    Judging by the image it appears male Viera are about a head and a half shorter than the females. So it seems the renders are somewhat accurate.

    Credits to @Blessed_Dancer
    That picture is actually misleading for a few reasons.

    Firstly, they're not actually matched up. If you look at the background closely, you'll see that the female Viera's side is more elevated.

    Secondly, we don't know how tall that female Viera is. Most likely the male Viera is average height, as most NPCs are. It's possible that that is a maximum height female Viera.

    And lastly, the male is hunched over. He just woke up and is getting out of bed. The female, on the other hand, is standing completely straight.



    If that female Viera is indeed maximum height and the male is average height, it would make the height difference seem much more drastic. All these factors help pronounce the difference even more.
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  5. #14065
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    Macleod's Avatar
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    A'sharr Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I'm really happy we're not getting new hairstyles or hats for Viera & Hrothgar or fixing any problems with them or updating the older races!

    It's really great that another gender is being added first without addressing the existing races issues, which means the added genders will suffer the same issues because not many people seemed to recognize any issues or care about the existing viera & hrothgar problem

    It really is good news that male viera & female hrothgar will suffer the same issues!
    Goodjob, guys!
    I'm really happy people are being snarky when they don't even know what all is actually coming. It's still 6 months away, you might be surprised. Plus, still live letter and Q&A today, might actually find out more.
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  6. #14066
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    Reksanden's Avatar
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    Myifee Asurai
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I'm just happy that we got them and confirmation about fHroth. All the issues aren't addressed (yet)? That's fine! We can wait for those. It sucks, yes - same for everyone who wanted fHroth and have to wait just a bit longer. But!

    We got something they said they didn't want to do again. Two somethings, if you count fHroth down the line! There's plenty to be happy about from that alone.
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  7. #14067
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reksanden View Post
    I'm just happy that we got them and confirmation about fHroth. All the issues aren't addressed (yet)? That's fine! We can wait for those. It sucks, yes - same for everyone who wanted fHroth and have to wait just a bit longer. But!

    We got something they said they didn't want to do again. Two somethings, if you count fHroth down the line! There's plenty to be happy about from that alone.
    I'm sorry but I (partly) disagree.

    It's great that they're going to add them, but please don't wave away legitimate gripes with the races as "fine" because they're doing this now.

    We have been waiting for them to do something for close to 2 years but it's not like they addressed some of the issues and have yet to polish a few details; they've done nothing for either race since they released them.

    Fan Fest isn't over yet so there might be more announced yet, but it's definitely not "fine".
    (5)

  8. #14068
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    Ultaniku's Avatar
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    Jojo Ryder
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 97
    I’m beyond excited they’re giving the missing genders, have wanted himbunnies since HW, but I’m really hoping they’re going to address some of the concerns/criticisms with the current two genders of said races.
    (7)

  9. #14069
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Yeah the FoV in the trailer is not what it is in game natively.
    Best reference is comparing the height of the bed when he stands up to the height of his knee.
    (use a male character for this comparison because female legs are longer in this game than the males)


    Here's how high the bed comes up to my min-height miqo'te's knees.
    (3)
    Last edited by Roda; 05-16-2021 at 06:06 AM.

  10. #14070
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    Reksanden's Avatar
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    Myifee Asurai
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I'm sorry but I (partly) disagree.

    It's great that they're going to add them, but please don't wave away legitimate gripes with the races as "fine" because they're doing this now.

    We have been waiting for them to do something for close to 2 years but it's not like they addressed some of the issues and have yet to polish a few details; they've done nothing for either race since they released them.

    Fan Fest isn't over yet so there might be more announced yet, but it's definitely not "fine".
    No absolutely, that's a fair point, and you're absolutely right. The issues need to be addressed, regardless of the announcement to fill out the missing genders...

    And I got caught up in what I was saying and forgot what I actually WANTED to say - my thoughts are that they're either wanting to address the gripes AFTER releasing both missing genders, OR simply prioritizing them over the issues because that's what they see folks wanting more of.

    Just admittedly, I'm more than a bit tired of and frustrated on how folks are so focused on negativity and doubt, and that's leaked to me being dismissive toward the old issues in the face of news that WAS a target of such doubts. That's a fault of mine here, and something I need to keep a lid on more.
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