Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Kolsykol]

Considering how disappointed fans were, review sites were, and general feedback to Yoshi P directly, I'd say yes.

I understand the disappointment but I still think he's right, I don't think that male Viera would *significantly* boost players.
That's not saying that they shouldn't be a thing, I just think it's a bit of a silly thing to dispute.

Like as much as I genuinely hate censorship with a burning passion and have boycotted a number of games in the past because of it as well as entire studios and publishers, I am still not under some illusion that in the majority of cases it's a significant loss in profits except for in very niche cases.
Most people don't care THAT much, it's more of an annoyance but they don't have like a super strong principled stance against it to the point they'll make that sacrifice.
And the same thing goes here in the case of Viera I don't think there's is some huge number of people who either quit playing because there's no male Viera or aren't interested in starting unless they're added.
People at large tend to be quite nonchalant about content in games imo, the people who care on some deeper level tend to be a small but loud minority.

Honestly most people giving that feedback probably wouldn't even play male Viera to begin with it's just a general annoyance with gender-locks which I think is fair.
And also in regard to gaming websites it's just good clickbait which is also why people generally mainly tend to point at Viera moreso than Hrothgar, '' ermaghurd look sexy bunny girls but no boys the game is sexist ''.
Like I see that whole meme about '' male vs female fantasy races '' be spread around a lot when it comes to this topic from people who clearly don't play the game and seem to believe that Viera and Hrothgar are the same race.
People talk a lot but ultimately I don't think that profit-wise that this is really that big of a deal.

I think that one can acknowledge this point and at the same time be of the opinion that they should be added.

Considering that miqo'te, highlanders, and roegadyns were genderlocked in 1.0 and they added the missing genders for 2.0... and now male miqo'te PCs are everywhere...

The thing is tho that we're quite deep into the game and 2.0 was the relaunch of the game so it was essentially on day 1.
The game has been out for a very long time now and been established, so I don't think that these things affect it as much as it does with games with these things being there from the beginning.

It's not about whether they're popular when the option exists, it's whether those people playing those genders and races wouldn't play altogether if they weren't an option.
On day 1 with so many fewer options I think it's a much bigger deal but this late into a games life and with two races which lets be real here would still skew significantly in one direction I don't think it has that big of an effect.
Ultimately male Miqo'te is also a quite similar male fantasy as male Viera, the absence of that fantasy altogether would have a far greater affect than the absence of a second addition of it.
It's the difference between no options and less options.

Like for example my dream race would be Succubus.
But if they added Succubus and they were gender-locked to male, I wouldn't stop playing even tho I'd be very disappointed about it.
I mean yeah I'd be ranting about it on the forums and I get that I understand the strong feelings about it.
But it'd take way more than that for me to not play.

I mean even in this thread where I imagine the most passionate people are posting.
How many actually unsubbed?

[AxelBranford]

... I mean even in this thread where I imagine the most passionate people are posting.
How many actually unsubbed?

I was burned out of the game and the Red Fanfest Wedding was a killer. Each people play in a way. Many players doesn't speak English or other Languages available, so play for the challenge, glamour or fantasy.
I loved the story and fantasy, it was a good way to evade to a world of my own (faster chemical feeling than a book). So for me, it was a deal breaker and unsubbed for 6 months.
Give it another try, and after changing for each race and gender (which I love all) finally found the perfect match for me that was my highlander with his right skintone, hair collor and character.
Business is money. A race, even if played by many or a few, is a thing to cling the client to your product, it is a gust of fresh air into the world and fantasy.
Just as the madness of running the dungeons multiple times, a race is an appealing content.
Like I said, some just press the random custom character generator and has no attachment. Others the character has a digital/fantasy emotional attachment and is something that captivate and make a client stay. Nostalgic.

Btw.: opening a topic of Support Incubus race RN!

[Fukuro]

I don‘t think adding male viera would do any wonders - but there still was a huge backlash, so big even yoshi p stepped out and made an official post about it.
would i play a male viera? i honestly don‘t know, but having the option would be really nice! I (and i reckon many) generally just hate genderlocks and i personally used to avoid many asian mmos for said reason. they gave me a kind of „cheap in production“ vibe and something like that also may scare off some newbies away. yoshi himself said, he was quite surprised „the west“ attaches so much importance in having no genderlocking.

[Caurcas]

Honestly, its most likely not going to happen. Probably not ever, nor are they going to address current Viera/Hrothgar issues. No reason to add more half baked content. However, if they ever do I hope both male Viera and female Hrothgar are as far from fetish bait as possible.

[Fukuro]

Honestly, its most likely not going to happen. Probably not ever, nor are they going to address current Viera/Hrothgar issues.

the only chance i see them happening is through an upgraded engine which could ease their implementation.

No reason to add more half baked content. However, if they ever do I hope both male Viera and female Hrothgar are as far from fetish bait as possible.

I just hope they would go with their original idea (that one concept art design) and don‘t try to shoehorn them into a direction to make them stand out in a weird way.

[WoW]

So my logic is false yet you just admitted that male miqo'te are played a lot? I'm sorry but how can you make any kind of debate when you can't even stick to your own words?

Learn to read. Male miqote alone being high in numbers has nothing to do with them being genderlocked in the first place. Female Roegadyn and highlanders were also not available in 1.0 yet they're among the least played. Correlation does not imply causation.

I also wasn't making a point. I was just saying that there is a sizeable chunk of the player base that plays the the previously missing genders.

Gender, not genders. And again, it has nothing to do with them being genderlocked. So again, false logic here.

You maybe right about the headgear affecting the numbers, but that also shows further that the dev team is already at their limit. So why would they add the missing genders? To further limit them? Would be funny to see the concept of "limited race". Only 10% of the data center would be able to make one. It's lore friendly as well rofl!

[Roda]

HIM PRETTY!! ♥

[myahele]

How they did. They're just like how I imagined

[rance-sama]

GOD DANG IT

[CherryCola]

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