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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelryth View Post
    Elegant. handsom and slim can be youthful without being a child.
    Yes, they can. I'm not arguing against a youthful face. I'm arguing about those who literally wanted to have the child model. Every race has a youthful face - so, it'd be silly for me to argue against that.
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    Quite clearly the person mashing together sections from different parts of the letter in ways which make it seem they're ruling out the addition of mViera/fHrothgar, no doubt hoping people don't check the source.

    I sense you will do little but waste my time, so I've no further desire to engage you beyond exposing your chicanery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Quite clearly the person mashing together sections from different parts of the letter in ways which make it seem they're ruling out the addition of mViera/fHrothgar, no doubt hoping people don't check the source.

    I sense you will do little but waste my time, so I've no further desire to engage you beyond exposing your chicanery.
    What the hell are you saying dude? Are you ok?
    The live letter is there, they clearly said in english Viera male won't happen and they also said you why. Are you really trying to say the other way around? Lmao, get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    What the hell are you saying dude? Are you ok?
    The live letter is there, they clearly said in english Viera male won't happen and they also said you why. Are you really trying to say the other way around? Lmao, get over it.
    Please quote where he literally said they 'won't happen.' or 'We're not going to do them, ever.' Or anything that literally says 'No, male Viera - ever'. I'll wait.

    Hint, you can't because that's not what he chuffing said.

    I advise everyone to read the full live letter - lest you listen to people like this who are just here to stir the pot due to too much spare time.
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    Moving on:-the main quote;

    'As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.'

    The 'bear with us' part was very interesting to me. Seeing as that basically means 'have patatience' - we will be getting our answer. It's very much a please wait and we hope to deliver, type of sentence. I will however not get my hopes up. But it's still nice to have some communication.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 05-11-2019 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Please quote where he literally said they 'won't happen.' or 'We're not going to do them, ever.' Or anything that literally says 'No, male Viera - ever'. I'll wait.

    Hint, you can't because that's not what he chuffing said.
    As you know, in Shadowbringers we will be introducing two new playable races: the Viera and the Hrothgar. Hrothgar will be male only, and Viera will be female only—a decision which has prompted a variety of feedback from each region. I’d like to elaborate on why we decided to proceed in this fashion.
    Although these second and third points are in conflict, we nevertheless felt that it was in the best interests of our players to try and satisfy both demands. We understood that some players would be upset if they were unable to use their preferred gender, but even so, after much internal discussion, we decided this approach was the best way to improve the overall game experience.

    And he told you multiple reasons why it won't happen.


    Full Live Letter

    Like I've said it's time to stop this circus between dreamers and people interested in certain activities that should be banned from the game, this is Final Fantasy XIV and they should focus their energy elsewhere not on feeding erp, I'd would even bother answering or giving details about the reason why they chose this way, which is extremely clear for those ears who want to listen. ; )

    Peace.
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    Last edited by Fei-yen; 05-11-2019 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    As you know, in Shadowbringers we will be introducing two new playable races: the Viera and the Hrothgar. Hrothgar will be male only, and Viera will be female only—a decision which has prompted a variety of feedback from each region. I’d like to elaborate on why we decided to proceed in this fashion.
    Although these second and third points are in conflict, we nevertheless felt that it was in the best interests of our players to try and satisfy both demands. We understood that some players would be upset if they were unable to use their preferred gender, but even so, after much internal discussion, we decided this approach was the best way to improve the overall game experience.

    And he told you multiple reasons why it won't happen.


    Full Live Letter

    Like I've said it's time to stop this circus between dreamers and people interested in certain activities that should be banned from the game, this is Final Fantasy XIV and they should focus their energy elsewhere not on feeding erp, I'd would even bother answering or giving details about the reason why they chose this way, which is extremely clear for those ears who want to listen. ; )

    Peace.
    Oh for the love of mercy, stop picking and choosing specific quotes. If you're going to post that; then I guess I should post this for more context. Seeing as you wont.

    'As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.'

    Look how that completely contradicts what you keep harping on about. Stop it.

    There you go folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Oh for the love of mercy, stop picking and choosing specific quotes. If you're going to post that; then I guess I should post this.

    'As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.'

    Look how that completely contradicts what you keep harping on about. Stop it.

    There you go folks.
    And don't you realise he's talking about mere NPCs?
    Because it's crystal clear. For whenever position you put it, it's either for NPCs or a way to say "sorry but won't happen" after they said "we know some people blame but we don't care at all and we decided it together". Just practical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    And don't you realise he's talking about mere NPCs?
    Because it's crystal clear. For whenever position you put it, it's either for NPCs or a way to say "sorry but won't happen" after they said "we know some people blame but we don't care at all and we decided it together". Just practical.
    Yeah, let's add NPCs and not actually the other gender in. HAHA. Makes sense right? So he can just listen to people complain 100 times more on why there are the NPCs of the missing gender but still not going to have them be playable. Yeah no. How is that practical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Yeah, let's add NPCs and not actually the other gender in. HAHA. Makes sense right? So he can just listen to people complain 100 times more on why there are the NPCs of the missing gender but still not going to have them be playable. Yeah no. How is that practical?
    You clearly didn't read either don't want to understand why they didn't add them. The reasons are listed above, believe what you want at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    As you know, in Shadowbringers we will be introducing two new playable races: the Viera and the Hrothgar. Hrothgar will be male only, and Viera will be female only—a decision which has prompted a variety of feedback from each region. I’d like to elaborate on why we decided to proceed in this fashion.
    Although these second and third points are in conflict, we nevertheless felt that it was in the best interests of our players to try and satisfy both demands. We understood that some players would be upset if they were unable to use their preferred gender, but even so, after much internal discussion, we decided this approach was the best way to improve the overall game experience.

    And he told you multiple reasons why it won't happen.


    Full Live Letter

    Like I've said it's time to stop this circus between dreamers and people interested in certain activities that should be banned from the game, this is Final Fantasy XIV and they should focus their energy elsewhere not on feeding erp, I'd would even bother answering or giving details about the reason why they chose this way, which is extremely clear for those ears who want to listen. ; )

    Peace.
    I mean he gave reasons....however none of them are reasons that can't be remedied by standard game development logistics...his statement has a number of half truths and one or two which just simply are not true.
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