Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[linayar]

Why in the world would you not bother even glancing at the party bar while healing?? Lmfao

Well, that's why I don't heal. Did you not read the earlier post? lol

I honestly don't know what to blame at this point, other than the NA/EU mindset of "only I matter, who cares if everyone around me is struggling or inconvenienced, only my fun and time matters".

Well, that seems to be a common mindset shared by all types of players.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Well, that's why I don't heal. Did you not read the earlier post? lol

I'm more mystified why you'd even try to play/level healers at all if you can't at least train or remind yourself to pay attention to one of the most important things on the screen for the job role.

Especially when most healer dps rotations consist of a single button and a DoT refresh every now and then.

[linayar]

I'm more mystified why you'd even try to play/level healers at all if you can't at least train or remind yourself to pay attention to one of the most important things on the screen for the job role.

Especially when most healer dps rotations consist of a single button and a DoT refresh every now and then.

How would I know if I can't if I don't try it. I managed to run a dungeon successfully with FC friends, but I hated it. Running it with two healer mains in voice comm probably didn't help.

As for leveling a healer, plenty of reasons, like getting Goddess of Magic title and doing role quest. Fortunately, there are ways to level solo, or SCH.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

How would I know if I can't if I don't try it. I managed to run a dungeon successfully with FC friends, but I hated it.

As for leveling a healer, plenty of reasons, like getting Goddess of Magic title and doing role quest. Fortunately, there are ways to level solo, or SCH.

SCH has to pay as much attention to the party bar as the rest of the healers, so I really don't know how you couldn't learn or remind yourself to pop a look to the left of your screen (or wherever your party menu is placed). And if the party menu is the issue, just... move it? Closer? To where you can see it in your periphery?? I mean you have to look at it to res people don't you?

Seriously, you already claim to be multitasking by paying attention to various other different parts of the screen - why is the most important thing for a healer to pay attention to somehow not possible? I am genuinely baffled.

[linayar]

SCH has to pay as much attention to the party bar as the rest of the healers, so I really don't know how you couldn't learn or remind yourself to pop a look to the left of your screen (or wherever your party menu is placed). And if the party menu is the issue, just... move it? Closer? To where you can see it in your periphery?? I mean you have to look at it to res people don't you?

Seriously, you already claim to be multitasking by paying attention to various other different parts of the screen - why is the most important thing for a healer to pay attention to somehow not possible? I am genuinely baffled.

Uhm, the point with SCH is I don't have to level as SCH.

Anyways, it's not really just about paying attention, but also doing something about it. I play on controller, but I'm not good at moving across the party bar with it, so I switch to mouse when I'm targeting my party member, and that's the same way when I heal/res someone with RDM or SMN.

On tank, I mostly use macro for my abilities that target others, and mostly use it on tankbusters with the other tank.

In the end, I can probably heal a dungeon if I feel like it and actually want to practice and hopefully get better at it, but there's no reason to do it when there are solo alternatives, so I just don't.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Uhm, the point with SCH is I don't have to level as SCH.

Anyways, it's not really just about paying attention, but also doing something about it. I play on controller, but I'm not good at moving across the party bar with it, so I switch to mouse when I'm targeting my party member, and that's the same way when I heal/res someone with RDM or SMN.

You really need to be clear when you keep saying "or SCH" - nowhere in your posts did it sound as if you meant you get your free leveling via SMN, only that somehow SCH was an easier healer despite it requiring the same thing you claim you weren't paying attention to/now claim it's simply inability to do anything with the party menu via controller.

Clarity goes a long way so people don't misunderstand. Though really, I raided with a WHM who managed controller party menu movement far more easily than I think I even manage my kb+m setup, so it's something that can be improved on.

Though I suppose this illustrates a few points brought up elsewhere in the thread, so. /shrug

I was able to infer this just fine because of the context. People will often use SMN to level SCH so they're talking about SCH as part of an alternative method of levelling, the only thing that makes SCH special in that respect is SMN.

If there was context before the last page, I may have missed it. Because I saw no context other than randomly mentioning "or SCH" when referring to playing healers for titles. That is not enough for everyone to take that as "leveling SMN instead" when it isn't mentioned anywhere.

Clarity goes a long way.

Either way, their later admittance of it not being a problem of attention but of practice simply feeds into many points brought up elsewhere in the thread. And really, my point was less their side thing regarding not being able to manage a basic fundamental task of healing, but more the overall truth that this game's community in particular fosters a very coddling and toxic environment where people are willfully defending the sort of players who will actively drag the enjoyment, time, and effort of others down because they are selfish and do not understand their own responsibility in a team-based environment.

Most other games have toxic elitism, and XIV also has that in some circles. But I can tell you, the most toxic and rancid individuals I've met in this game have been people adhering to the casualist mindset of "screw you, I can do whatever I want because only I matter".

[Awha]

You really need to be clear when you keep saying "or SCH" - nowhere in your posts did it sound as if you meant you get your free leveling via SMN, only that somehow SCH was an easier healer despite it requiring the same thing you claim you weren't paying attention to/now claim it's simply inability to do anything with the party menu via controller.

Clarity goes a long way so people don't misunderstand. Though really, I raided with a WHM who managed controller party menu movement far more easily than I think I even manage my kb+m setup, so it's something that can be improved on.

Though I suppose this illustrates a few points brought up elsewhere in the thread, so. /shrug

Maybe, though at the very least for me given the context of the posts it seemed fairly clear what they meant, regarding the whole SCH thing.