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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    As a healer I definitely understand that fantasy, but it really requires at least 5 or 6 players being clueless, including my co-healer, to get a kick out of it in casual content

    As an AST I have to watch what everyone in the party is up to as much as I can, so that stuff is jarring to me x-x

    So I don't really get why someone would defend lazyness
    Ugh, one of the reasons why I hate being healer is I don't like paying attention to my party. I'm too focused on DPSing as a healer and then I forgot to heal, so I have to switch my focus to healing, then I see they're at max HP, so I start getting the itch to DPS again.

    Then I just never touch healer again and focus on what I like to do. SCH FTW to complete role quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Ugh, one of the reasons why I hate being healer is I don't like paying attention to my party. I'm too focused on DPSing as a healer and then I forgot to heal, so I have to switch my focus to healing, then I see they're at max HP, so I start getting the itch to DPS again.

    Then I just never touch healer again and focus on what I like to do. SCH FTW to complete role quest.
    What? It's called multitasking. Do you get hit by avoidable mechanics, because you are looking at HP bars, or your skill tray?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    What? It's called multitasking. Do you get hit by avoidable mechanics, because you are looking at HP bars, or your skill tray?
    I focus on my hotbars, my HP/MP bars, and the enemy cast bar. I don't look at party bar unless I'm trying to res someone. I don't get hit by avoidable mechanics most of the time, but I also don't have to do anything differently other than move my joystick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I focus on my hotbars, my HP/MP bars, and the enemy cast bar. I don't look at party bar unless I'm trying to res someone. I don't get hit by avoidable mechanics most of the time, but I also don't have to do anything differently other than move my joystick.
    Why in the world would you not bother even glancing at the party bar while healing?? Lmfao

    Anyway yeah, XIV's playerbase nowadays is rancid when it comes to both participating in and enabling poor play across the board. I have never seen an MMO defend genuinely toxic players who do not want to learn, do not want to try, and are willfully and gleefully making things harder on everyone else in the party, more than I have in this game. I honestly don't know what to blame at this point, other than the NA/EU mindset of "only I matter, who cares if everyone around me is struggling or inconvenienced, only my fun and time matters".

    It's gotten to the point I rarely queue for anything without a friend or two who I know actually play like they have a working braincell and are aware they are participating in team-based activities. I still very much enjoy the content the game is putting out, but the playerbase' attitude towards improvement and performing to the basic standards of their jobs makes doing the content less enjoyable. Kind of fear where we'll be in a couple years if there isn't some massive improvement in how people approach playing with others.
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 05-11-2021 at 07:41 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Why in the world would you not bother even glancing at the party bar while healing?? Lmfao
    Well, that's why I don't heal. Did you not read the earlier post? lol

    I honestly don't know what to blame at this point, other than the NA/EU mindset of "only I matter, who cares if everyone around me is struggling or inconvenienced, only my fun and time matters".
    Well, that seems to be a common mindset shared by all types of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Well, that's why I don't heal. Did you not read the earlier post? lol
    I'm more mystified why you'd even try to play/level healers at all if you can't at least train or remind yourself to pay attention to one of the most important things on the screen for the job role.

    Especially when most healer dps rotations consist of a single button and a DoT refresh every now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    I'm more mystified why you'd even try to play/level healers at all if you can't at least train or remind yourself to pay attention to one of the most important things on the screen for the job role.

    Especially when most healer dps rotations consist of a single button and a DoT refresh every now and then.
    How would I know if I can't if I don't try it. I managed to run a dungeon successfully with FC friends, but I hated it. Running it with two healer mains in voice comm probably didn't help.

    As for leveling a healer, plenty of reasons, like getting Goddess of Magic title and doing role quest. Fortunately, there are ways to level solo, or SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    How would I know if I can't if I don't try it. I managed to run a dungeon successfully with FC friends, but I hated it.

    As for leveling a healer, plenty of reasons, like getting Goddess of Magic title and doing role quest. Fortunately, there are ways to level solo, or SCH.
    SCH has to pay as much attention to the party bar as the rest of the healers, so I really don't know how you couldn't learn or remind yourself to pop a look to the left of your screen (or wherever your party menu is placed). And if the party menu is the issue, just... move it? Closer? To where you can see it in your periphery?? I mean you have to look at it to res people don't you?

    Seriously, you already claim to be multitasking by paying attention to various other different parts of the screen - why is the most important thing for a healer to pay attention to somehow not possible? I am genuinely baffled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    I think the point is that SCH levels up with SMN, so you have a built in healer to do the role quests but you can focus solely on the DPS when you're actually playing content.
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