Moogle Treasure Festival 2021

[Duskane]

I get Garo isn't on there.
The floating orb mounts for example.
They've been in the game for ages.

all of those are achievement rewards still

[Vidu]

I get Garo isn't on there.
The floating orb mounts for example.
They've been in the game for ages.

Just my personal theories, but unlike the dog-mounts, the Eureka-emote or the various minions that dropped from dungeons and old 24-man-raids, the PvP mounts dont belong to outdated content. They've added more and more PvP-content but specially after changing the queue-system to only having one frontline-mode active for the day, the newer PvP content hasnt really replaced the old one (though one could argue that Secure has indeed been replaced, since thats the least active mode, from my experience...).

Bottomline: The PvP-mounts require about the same amount of effort to achieve today than they did a couple of years ago. Ex-Primal-mounts on the other hand are so easy to obtain today that they can be given out as rewards for such an event without really hurting anyone. The Eureka-emote has the opposite problem: Because the content isnt active enough anymore for people to obtain the emote there (and was already laughable rare back in the day - to rare for an emote, if you ask me...), it can be made easier (or even possible) to obtain now. Minion drops from dungeons and raids are a bit in the same category: Back when the content was relevant, people would run it multiple times a week, having a chance to grab the minion while they were doing the content anyways. Now, with the content less relevant, they might aswell give out the minions a few years later.
Neither scenario is true for PvP: Its still as relevant as it used to be (which is to say: not very on most servers).

In addition to that those mounts are also tied to achievements, so you know you'll get them - while most other stuff has an RNG-element to it (with the exception that you can exchange tokens for the primal-mounts). The difficulty of those achievements stays about the same, aswell - while Ex-primals get easier and something like Eureka gets more difficult. There might also be a technical element to it.

They also seem to be more concerned in regards to PvP-prestige compare to PvE - which seems understandable to me, because as I mentioned difficulty in PvP doesnt change as much as PvE (where you know that if you just wait for the next expansion you can unsych everything).

The team also seems eager to get people to participate in PvP, the mounts are one incentive to do so - making them obtainable through other means is only counterproductive. On the other hand there is no need anymore to get people to farm Lakshmi EX, though.

Lastely, I dont really understand why you would exclude the PvP-ranked season rewards (as you did in your first post) - so rewards you get for PvP-wins -, but not the ones that are tied to achievemnets that require PvP-wins. The Feast and Frontlines might be bit different when it comes to much the contribution of one person counts, but it is indeed amazing how much difference even one person with decent callouts can make in any Frontline-match...

In short: There are multiple reasons why they could think that PvP-achievment mounts should be achieved through PvP.

[Alleo]

This one seems to be packed with some nice items. But if they do give out some of the more rarer items it would really be nice to get some of the PVP mounts too. After all if its fine that one part of the playerbase loses something unique than PVP should not be the only one still remaining with exclusive items. (And to be clear I dont mean the achievement ones, I mean the ranking ones.)

[Awha]

Honestly I would love to see them put pvp rewards just so I can see the backlash.

[Commander_Justitia]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they added an old Feast mount every now and then. In my opinion, they were all wasted on the very limited ranking system that was very easy to game.

Ye because running 3 mainstory dungeons should be the same as reaching top100 in a halfyear long season before dc split?!
The majority of people got&get their rank legit, stop spreading misinformation about "was very easy to game the ranking system".

[Vahlnir]

stop spreading misinformation about "was very easy to game the ranking system".

I'm not spreading any misinformation.

[Theodric]

It isn't really a case of misinformation. Though it is difficult to provide explicit proof given that providing evidence is against the naming and shaming rules and the PvP Discord's have since scrubbed themselves clean of the outright bragging that used to take place within.

Furthermore, if we consider that some people pay ridiculous amounts of real world money to get clears of content that isn't going anywhere anytime soon, such as Ultimate clears, Savage clears and even Extreme trial clears...it stands to reason that there would also be a portion of the community eager to spend cash on the even more exclusive items that are only temporarily available.

Such circumstances would allow a portion of skilled PvP enthusiasts to make a ridiculous amount of cash - which, again, some of them are silly enough to brag about outside of the game to friends and even strangers. Confident that nothing will ever happen to them and quick to piece together a defence force whenever anybody gets close to poking around.

Perhaps all this is hypothetical. Perhaps it isn't. I think I'll leave it to other players to judge for themselves.

[linayar]

I think I'll leave it to other players to judge for themselves.

When there is an accusation being made, I'd rather there is more firm evidence rather than leaving it to the court of public opinion. The internet being what it is, the ease of spreading information also means the ease of spreading misinformation.

People may be right, but it's still not something that should just be uttered freely and spoken as if it's a given.

[Commander_Justitia]

I'm not spreading any misinformation.

Yeah you are, you make it sound like the majority of top100 players in PvP either wintrade, boost, cheat or hack, and that way got the reward, which you couldn't get. Which is not the truth, even for NA.
I am not denying that they don't exist, but they are not many and especially old PvP was even less vulnerable to cheating/hacking/scripting partially because it was new and tools like ACT or other 3rd party tools weren't so advanced yet and partially because the skillceilling was much higher and actually good people from PvE competed in it.

So the simple fact that a cheater or wintrader exists, makes you say, it should be made available to everyone? Is that really your reasoning?
Can I get my free perfect alexander clear from a moogle event too, because some people use very advanced helping tools for it?

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Furthermore, if we consider that some people pay ridiculous amounts of real world money to get clears of content that isn't going anywhere anytime soon, such as Ultimate clears, Savage clears and even Extreme trial clears...it stands to reason that there would also be a portion of the community eager to spend cash on the even more exclusive items that are only temporarily available.

Such circumstances would allow a portion of skilled PvP enthusiasts to make a ridiculous amount of cash - which, again, some of them are silly enough to brag about outside of the game [...]

Perhaps all this is hypothetical. Perhaps it isn't. I think I'll leave it to other players to judge for themselves.

PvP community is small, if you would play it more you would maybe know, this leads to that people know each other since several seasons, which leads to that you notice new players that suddenly do extremely good. Which makes it very easy to point out who is getting boosted, and makes it often easy as well to identify the booster. Is the ranking system trash ? Yes most likely. Are there more than 2,3,4,5 or even 6 booster on a leaderboard ? Maybe in one season 2 or 3, cant be sure. But more than 5 ? very unlikely, especially for EU. Are you putting all of the 95 remaining players in a bad light with your post ? most definitely

And never let people judge for themselves, they are the fastest to get their torches and pitchforks, because they are simply jealous for the rewards they couldn't get, partially because this game promotes a "I am always a winner" environment, makes those requests of making exclusive items available again sound very entitlted. My compromise would be to simply give PvE more exclusive items too.

[Kuroka]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...f6abc4d689cb1a

https://sqex.to/lOCfv

One item in particular stands out. The Scarf of Wondrous Wit, it's been a contest reward for a decade, and now it's just fodder on a grind list. Kind of removes any prestige it had, even if it was just a silly scarf.

I can imagine they might wanna do this so they can move on to new contest rewards, but being an MMO you'd think they'd just want to retire the items so they can remain special for those who did something special to earn them. That's not an abnormal thing to see in MMOs. What's next, the Dalamud Horn?

EVERYTHNG on there is an insult to long term players, all the mounts we farmed for, many of us synched when it was actually hard and not rofl stomp on lv 80/520.

Imo the primal mounts have no place there, at least bother to make some recolors of existing stuff, A normal Horse/lanner/wolf/gwiber would be perfect but noooo...

And those hairstyles... great just destroy some of the few items that retained some value...

This one seems to be packed with some nice items. But if they do give out some of the more rarer items it would really be nice to get some of the PVP mounts too. After all if its fine that one part of the playerbase loses something unique than PVP should not be the only one still remaining with exclusive items. (And to be clear I dont mean the achievement ones, I mean the ranking ones.)

I still dont see why just ex primals.... IF they gonna add this stuff there should be old savage and pvp mounts as well...