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  1. #11
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Besides the obvious FFIV parallels with Cecil going DRK to PLD and ending up on the Moon, I recall around the time EW was announced Yoshi explained the reason why Derplander is PLD as his 'poster Job' for the expansion, and that it was to give the idea of a knight in shining armour as a beacon of hope when all hope seems lost in the apocalyptic scenario that EW's storyline is.

    Basically, by using PLD to symbolize the expansion SE are reverting to the 'Warrior of Light' concept literally, and upholding the image of Hydaelyn's champion as not just the champion and defender of the Mothercrystal, but of the world itself, a beacon that the world can rally behind and fight back against that insane nhilist Ascian and the WoL's crazy Garlean stalker-with-a-crush.

    I lack a citation for that, but I'm pretty sure that was said (please clarify or debunk that with citations by all means though!).
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 05-03-2021 at 10:42 PM.

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    I bet EW will be full of FF4's references, given the few so far:

    - DRK to PLD
    - Going to the moon
    - Sage as a job (although visually it's nothing like Tellah)

    I wonder if there's gonna be twins (temporarily?) sacrificing themselves for the WoL's survival too.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    it doesn't really seem like there's a reason outside of the script calling for it. A gil for your thoughts?
    it has to do with the original CGI trailer, i think.

    The main protag for FFXIV in the CGI has had a long journey of trials and error but ultimately they've never really properly worn a shield to protect themselves. In the original trailer where they are a Archer they still try to face tank things and steal enmity. which you can watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RicOcDSSjGU

    from then on they've been playing tank jobs, mostly. He leveled up a few other jobs like Dragoon, Monk, and Samurai but he's been a Marauder main for years. So they then decided to try and branch out to a new tank job like Dark Knight but that didn't last because they most likely only picked it due to the Light being the enemy that time around an based on what we've seen of them in the cgi's DKs "dark and brooding" thing just doesn't vibe with them. so they most likely went with Paladin afterwards since it's basically the opposite to DKs, which personally to me makes sense since if you watch the 2.0 CGIs in order it fits this narrative quite well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQ0uNafWyA

    if you ask me what his next job is most likely going to be, i'll say a Gunbreaker since it's the next logical step imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    The thing is 1.0 where it ended was headed in a great direction imo....

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    Because PLD represents the pinnacle of "Warrior of Light" and since its the end of the ascian plot.
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    Mei Coincounter
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    As a FFIV fan and tank main I love this, though I would love to see our stud as a caster or something for once.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I bet EW will be full of FF4's references, given the few so far:

    - DRK to PLD
    - Going to the moon
    - Sage as a job (although visually it's nothing like Tellah)

    I wonder if there's gonna be twins (temporarily?) sacrificing themselves for the WoL's survival too.
    There's also
    the Magus Sisters
    lurking in the dungeon artwork for what I presume used to be the Garlean royal palace, which I could see now being called the Tower of Zot.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by znushu View Post
    it has to do with the original CGI trailer, i think.

    The main protag for FFXIV in the CGI has had a long journey of trials and error but ultimately they've never really properly worn a shield to protect themselves. In the original trailer where they are a Archer they still try to face tank things and steal enmity. which you can watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RicOcDSSjGU
    Not quite. A detail frequently not spotted in 1.0's opening movie is Derplander was actually a GLA from the begininng and is only switched to ARC during the Echo scene - when he returns back to the 'present' in the Adventurer's Guild, a sword can be seen dangling from his backpack, and this is confirmed by propaganda artwork for 1.0 featuring him as GLA wielding a sword (it even featured on the cover for 1.0), and SE even took that a step further by making up a full size replica of his armour and sword as a display at SE HQ. And now he's come full circle becoming GLA's natural progression; PLD. It makes perfect sense.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 05-04-2021 at 12:07 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Besides the obvious FFIV parallels with Cecil going DRK to PLD and ending up on the Moon, I recall around the time EW was announced Yoshi explained the reason why Derplander is PLD as his 'poster Job' for the expansion, and that it was to give the idea of a knight in shining armour as a beacon of hope when all hope seems lost in the apocalyptic scenario that EW's storyline is.

    Basically, by using PLD to symbolize the expansion SE are reverting to the 'Warrior of Light' concept literally, and upholding the image of Hydaelyn's champion as not just the champion and defender of the Mothercrystal, but of the world itself, a beacon that the world can rally behind and fight back against that insane nhilist Ascian and the WoL's crazy Garlean stalker-with-a-crush.

    I lack a citation for that, but I'm pretty sure that was said (please clarify or debunk that with citations by all means though!).
    This. There's the FF IV symbolism, the general marketability of tanks and melee, and paladin being the shining knight/symbol of hope (wish we'd gotten to actually be that in our actual PLD quests at some point...) in the trying times of the apocalypse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    There's also
    the Magus Sisters
    lurking in the dungeon artwork for what I presume used to be the Garlean royal palace, which I could see now being called the Tower of Zot.
    Wait... we had the
    the Magus Sisters
    ?? I think I missed that!
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    It's likely just a light reference to FFIV. I'm not reading too much into it since the previous job choices for the Warrior of Light haven't really amounted to too much other than 'rule of cool'. We also haven't seen the second half of the expansion trailer yet, so it could very well be that the Warrior of Light picks up a different job.
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