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    Rydin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    Well, I hate to "beat a dead horse" or w/e that hick saying is..but! FFXI had a pretty flawless battle system for consol players. The macro system was set up really, REALLY, well; and they were able to keep the traditional FF menu display, which went a long way in capturing my interest.

    I think it's safe to say that a pretty strong majority of the complaints out there are based from comparisons to FFXI. So, why not, at LEAST, try to appease both crowds? -Modern MMO players, AND "traditionalists" who usually favor XI > XIV.
    yea.... for the 300k people that played FFXI regularly....
    Nevermind the 20 million RPG and MMO gamers who didn't

    or the 6 million gamers that bought FFXIII

    I do love a good menu based RPG.... I do....
    But menu based battle just isn't conducive to real time fights
    It works offline because you can stop the action at any time to input commands
    or you can speed up or slow down battle to suit your tastes

    FFXI had some great qualities.... More NM's and content than 4 offline RPGs put together.... Diverse content... long term goals....

    the battle system though... is not one of it's selling points... period
    In fact... Macro heavy battles are part of the reason FFXI wasn't the hit it could have been.
    That type of battle turned A LOT of people off....
    You can say "SE should please the FFXI crowd" but for every ex-FFXI player, there are 10 RPG gamers that SE wants to appeal to, and Menu based, macro heavy combat wont do it

    Even FFXI enthusiast look back on gear change macros in battle with such disdain that even suggesting it in FFXIV would incite a riot

    Lastly... on a personal note.... battle macros leave me feeling disconnected from battle.
    Gone are the days when you "issue commands" to your character....
    Now.. You ARE your character... down to every swing of the sword or spell you use
    Menu based combat is as far inside the box as you can get....
    Challenge your brain to think outside it

    Quote Originally Posted by Natabant View Post
    The current macro system doesn't toggle, so you can accidentally hit some other action, while you're trying to hit a macro, if you don't hold down the L2/R2 triggers very well. And it blocks the action bar, which is really annoying.
    It absolutely toggles... There is a menu option that says... are you ready for this... "Toggle Macro Bar" under Configuration>system

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    Last edited by Rydin; 02-16-2012 at 02:54 PM.