"Play XIV if(cont)" and"you have a responsibility to" are not statements that coexist

[Infindox]

Personally I wish FFXIV followed more of a meta slave mentality over this you do not pay my sub one. I really wish at times we could just flash numbers around cause sometimes people need a wake up call for poor play.

The problem with this view is that there are amazing players with the numbers to prove it who just aren't considered part of the meta. Should they be excluded?

Also I don't mind if a static expects certain numbers but playing with pugs you have to have a certain level of tolerance. Someone could have just returned from a break and bit off more then they could chew, or maybe they forgot the fight and need a refresher. Or maybe someone never talked to them about their job or showed them the resources. The only time you should be critical towards someone is if they show no intention to get better or don't respect the team by learning. And in both cases, don't be like those streamers who think it's funny to pull up someone else's numbers and laugh about it on stream.

[Awha]

The problem with this view is that there are amazing players with the numbers to prove it who just aren't considered part of the meta. Should they be excluded?

Also I don't mind if a static expects certain numbers but playing with pugs you have to have a certain level of tolerance. Someone could have just returned from a break and bit off more then they could chew, or maybe they forgot the fight and need a refresher. Or maybe someone never talked to them about their job or showed them the resources. The only time you should be critical towards someone is if they show no intention to get better or don't respect the team by learning. And in both cases, don't be like those streamers who think it's funny to pull up someone else's numbers and laugh about it on stream.

Meta slave mentally in my post more so about how people are expected to perform a certain way. I doubt even if FFXIV went full meta slave mentally it would be as harsh as it can get in WoW cause generally how jobs play now they more or less play within acceptable performance among one another. If jobs remained as closely balanced and job synergy is not exclusive like it was in the past.

Personally I do not think it should be up the group to spare the feelings of another player because they might be having an off night or thought they were doing fine. That is why I think posting ones numbers should be acceptable since numbers are not toxic. If you have a BLM that is being out damaged by a healer or tank then that player should be informed of such. If we could show numbers even if they have the you do not pay my sub it is much harder to defend a dps that is objectively being out damged by a tank or healer especially when they cannot hide behind you used a parser. Holding players accountable is not toxic, hell I would argue allowing us to show numbers makes it less toxic cause then at the very least we have hard numbers to go based off of. Like in cases when you have a co healed that claims to be healing you could just show them nope sorry.