Is anyone surprised at this point?

[RinaB]

Except Paladin hasn't undergone any substantial redesign whereas Dark Knight has. It's similar to the complaints of numerous Bard mains who feel the jobs whole identity was ripped out in favor of giving said identity to Dancer, leaving them an Archer with sings. There's a reason after four years, HW Dark Knight remains the most praised iteration of the job. And that should stand out to the dev team on where to build their foundation from. They likely aren't going to nail every complaint but it's a far better starting point returning to what worked than continuing their attempt to force a new design every expansion.

General burnout from the game isn't relevant in this argument, and ignores these complaints started within the first month of Shadowbringers. People didn't wake up come 5.5 and suddenly decide Dark Knight needs a second overhaul. The lack of new content doesn't change people's opinion on job design. Hence why I cited myself as someone who is still actively playing, isn't burnt out and has never enjoyed Dark Knight at any point this expansion. I'm far from the only one evident by the sheer number of complaints we've seen.

Thats fine but despite forum opinion there are a lot of people out there who like the current iteration of DRK, so screw them because HW DRK is best? This is my point, the reason why they keep reworking the class is because they can't find a happy medium and each rework has created its fan base. I think the issue started with the decision to rework the job each xpac instead of tweaking it for 1, for 2, I like current DRK and hope they build on to it because now I'm worried about 6.0 when I should be excited for it. Burnout is relevant because like real life, when you spend too much time at work or too much time with anything you start becoming annoyed by even the smallest of issues.

[WhyAmIHere]

Thats fine but despite forum opinion there are a lot of people out there who like the current iteration of DRK, so screw them because HW DRK is best? This is my point, the reason why they keep reworking the class is because they can't find a happy medium and each rework has created its fan base. I think the issue started with the decision to rework the job each xpac instead of tweaking it for 1, for 2, I like current DRK and hope they build on to it because now I'm worried about 6.0 when I should be excited for it. Burnout is relevant because like real life, when you spend too much time at work or too much time with anything you start becoming annoyed by even the smallest of issues.

so your enjoyment is more valid that everyone else? Is that the take you wanna carry on with?
How about the myriad threads, hundreds if not thousands of posts by people across the globe saying "DRK is flawed, please address?"
Listen I'm happy you enjoy what DRK is now but frankly I don't honestly care that you like what it is now. You're going up against the HW DRK players and the SB DRK players, all of whom were shafted by DRK's continual redesigns.

And yet I can't justify directing this frustration towards you and others like you. I should be directing my ire, as should everyone, at the development team for letting things get this damn far out of hand. Why has DRK gone through so many wildly expansive changes? Why hasn't DRK had a consistent gameplay identity besides a super niche, and frankly outdated and outclassed "anti-magic" tank? Why was the idea in 5.x to just make it a copy of WAR? Why has DRK gotten nothing in terms of meaningful adjustments this entire expansion? Why is the perception that DRK player feedback is just ignored? Why is there a lack of engagement? Why?

I enjoy this game. But I can't help but see it's flaws and shortcomings and just be disappointed. I want to see it get better, not just "it makes Square Enix truckloads of cash." But it's getting more difficult as time goes on, just to have "well you're dumb and wrong and your opinion is bad and smelly and not mine so you're entirely not worth listening to lalala."

Healers have been shafted this expansion. Tanks have been shafted this expansion. Some DPS have been shafted this expansion. But only one of those three groups has really had anything done to help them out, and it's not the role the least amount of people play yet is just as if not more important.