Removal of Piety and Tenacity for Endwalker

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Piety has its place because as long as you're alive it's always working where as tenacity rates are both bad and it doesn't work unless you're taking damage.

OP here, I play mainly healer AND tank. (whm, astro, drk, pld) All of which I've built to have the lowest piety and tenacity possible.
I don't have any issues with MP regen or not being able to 'tank' new content.

That's nice, not everyone can do that.

Just time your mp regen and defensive mitigation accordingly.

New fights = new timings you basically just said gitgud.

Even in savage or ultimate, if 2 or 3 people die, it usually leads to failing a dps check. Something I have very little control of anyways on these roles.

I guess we don't want to prog and see mechanics anyway since we're just going to wipe to enrage since we're so shit.

With raises... swiftcast is 60 second cooldown, by the time it's cooled-down you'll likely have some form of MP regen ability up again.
If you're hard casting a raise... someone messed up badly, and the whole party will lose DPS regardless of how much mp you have.

I guess we don't want to prog and see mechanics anyway since we're going to wipe to enrage since we're so shit. Oh you want a hard cast? Nah fam I don't roll like that.

I have seen waaay more pugs (pick up groups) that can't even pass dps checks than I have seen healers or tanks that can't play their role.
But this is coming from someone at end game, not actively leveling.

Pugs are pugs.

All in all I think you've either never done content when it was relevant before guides came out or you're more a of a green/blue dps. I understand not liking tenacity because it's essentially useless but knocking piety like that when it has its place? I don't think you're looking at the whole picture nor do you understand the relevance of prog based on how you're talking about not ressing people if you can't make a dps check.