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    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    Well, refund exist. And why do you need an entire ward?!
    Imagine one day Square decided everybody has too much inventory and sold off half your belongings including all the currently equipped gear? Why are you upset you got refunded its vendor value should be fine eh? Don't forget to visit the NPC to pick up your gil.

    The demand for housing far outstrips the amount of available housing. Even if they somehow clawed all those back it would not help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Even if they decided not to grandfather in the people who already owned multiple houses, demolishing those plots wouldn't solve the housing shortage in ffxiv. Only a new system of housing independant of always online wards may be able to do that. Or at least, making upgradable apartments that also have access to stuff like gardening and airships etc.
    Sure demolish those is only one of the multiple way for fix the problem or at least a beginning. Hope they can think about something, atm housing system is not so cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    Imagine one day Square decided everybody has too much inventory and sold off half your belongings including all the currently equipped gear? Why are you upset you got refunded its vendor value should be fine eh? Don't forget to visit the NPC to pick up your gil.

    The demand for housing far outstrips the amount of available housing. Even if they somehow clawed all those back it would not help.
    There's no really the same an imo a unworthy comparable argument. I talk about people have multiple houses for nothing and people who don't have one. For sure can't cover the demand, but at least can help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    Well, refund exist. And why do you need an entire ward?!
    Refund of what? I don't follow your logic. I can think of a couple reasons people want a ward to themselves.
    I think it's to much work frankly but there is some "crazy" people in this game lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    There's no really the same an imo a unworthy comparable argument. I talk about people have multiple houses for nothing and people who don't have one. For sure can't cover the demand, but at least can help.
    In theory it's the same thing, maybe not a good analogy but, it's you buy/obtain your gear and it being grandfathered over from expansion to expanion then you just loose it for no particular reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    There are few plots cause a lot of people own an entire ward. And I know it was long time ago when there wasn't the restriction of one private and one fc for account. That's why it isn't fair. They should just demolish their houses and be equal. In this case a good portion of players can have a house and they should remove the 45 days, or at least as I said, demolish houses of people without sub for 45 days. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not but I'm sure they can do better than this.
    Not to be rude, but... if those people dont lose their houses its because they actually use them at least once in 45 days. And I dare say that its "more fair" (...is that proper english? Sounds wrong...) for someone who cares enough about multiple homes to visit them this one time in a 45 day period in which said person keeps an active sub than for someone to sit on a house they apparently forget about for over a month, despite keeping an active sub.

    As a little sidenote: I doubt that on most worlds a signifcant amount of plots would open if those who were grandfathered in would lose their plots. Same goes for those who somehow game the system by using shell-FCs and the like, but here I would be more inclined to agree that anyone who violates not only the word but the spirit of the rules should lose those extra houses.

    ...which still wouldnt help because we'd still have more demand than supply - which is why we have the timer now: To make sure that the houses belong to people who are "actively" using them. With a kinda love bar for anyone whos keeping an active sub (one step into the house every 45 days).

    I do agree though that they should do better than they - mainly by finding a way to add instance housing. Until they do I'd say this is the best system we'll get to make sure that the houses go to active players who are actually using them. Even though it really sucks for anyone who loses their house due to some real lofe catastrophe - those are the people I feel deeply sorry for... anyone who just forgets to enter their house for over a month... probably didnt really use the house in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Refund of what? I don't follow your logic. I can think of a couple reasons people want a ward to themselves.
    I think it's to much work frankly but there is some "crazy" people in this game lol.
    Role playing? Decorating? One private and one fc isn't enough? Can't see any other reason, and if is there one I sincerely won't to know it. It seems I started a war in this thread.
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    Yes and yes, that would be two valid reasons.
    Housing is a touchy subject so I guess so.

    Many who use multiple alts use it for having multiple airships/workshop for maximize passively generating gil. iirc there was a Mew fella on this forum that everyone universally seemed to hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Not to be rude, but... if those people dont lose their houses its because they actually use them at least once in 45 days. And I dare say that its "more fair" (...is that proper english? Sounds wrong...) for someone who cares enough about multiple homes to visit them this one time in a 45 day period in which said person keeps an active sub than for someone to sit on a house they apparently forget about for over a month, despite keeping an active sub.

    As a little sidenote: I doubt that on most worlds a signifcant amount of plots would open if those who were grandfathered in would lose their plots. Same goes for those who somehow game the system by using shell-FCs and the like, but here I would be more inclined to agree that anyone who violates not only the word but the spirit of the rules should lose those extra houses.

    ...which still wouldnt help because we'd still have more demand than supply - which is why we have the timer now: To make sure that the houses belong to people who are "actively" using them. With a kinda love bar for anyone whos keeping an active sub (one step into the house every 45 days).

    I do agree though that they should do better than they - mainly by finding a way to add instance housing. Until they do I'd say this is the best system we'll get to make sure that the houses go to active players who are actually using them. Even though it really sucks for anyone who loses their house due to some real lofe catastrophe - those are the people I feel deeply sorry for... anyone who just forgets to enter their house for over a month... probably didnt really use the house in the first place.
    I'm sorry if I'm English is not perfect like yours sir. I don't really understand how people can judge. So since I forgot to do a step inside, I don't care about my house and I'm here for nothing right? Instead, people who has multiple houses care more than me cause they remember to do it. Even if they don't care for real cause they didn't use it. (and for you information I was planning to change my decorations when I had a bit of time since I have little time for playing). But yeah rules are rules and seems here in not the right place for opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Not to be rude, but... if those people dont lose their houses its because they actually use them at least once in 45 days. And I dare say that its "more fair" (...is that proper english? Sounds wrong...) for someone who cares enough about multiple homes to visit them this one time in a 45 day period in which said person keeps an active sub than for someone to sit on a house they apparently forget about for over a month, despite keeping an active sub.

    As a little sidenote: I doubt that on most worlds a signifcant amount of plots would open if those who were grandfathered in would lose their plots. Same goes for those who somehow game the system by using shell-FCs and the like, but here I would be more inclined to agree that anyone who violates not only the word but the spirit of the rules should lose those extra houses.

    ...which still wouldnt help because we'd still have more demand than supply - which is why we have the timer now: To make sure that the houses belong to people who are "actively" using them. With a kinda love bar for anyone whos keeping an active sub (one step into the house every 45 days).

    I do agree though that they should do better than they - mainly by finding a way to add instance housing. Until they do I'd say this is the best system we'll get to make sure that the houses go to active players who are actually using them. Even though it really sucks for anyone who loses their house due to some real lofe catastrophe - those are the people I feel deeply sorry for... anyone who just forgets to enter their house for over a month... probably didnt really use the house in the first place.
    And Btw, I owned the house for more than 3 years and as I said I didn't receive any warning of demolition. and if you don't know the real life of someone you should not judge the care for something of someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    But yeah rules are rules
    Yes rules is same for everyone, what about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisRevo View Post
    and seems here in not the right place for opinions
    Why would it not?
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