Housing demolition

[Mykll]

Refunds exist for time? You're able to give people back the hours they spent camping and decorating?

Please explain.

For time? No.

[Catstab]

For time? No.

Right.

So OP is incorrect in saying houses can be refunded, since there is a time investment. That's the point.

[Mykll]

And that's not what I understand they meant. You get most of your items and gil back. You do get a refund.

[Nightroad]

You do not get everything back when your plot is demolished :

Here is the lodestone page :

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...3e7ccabefa9954

And i will quote :

Reclaiming Gil and Items
When an estate has been demolished, gil and certain furnishings will be placed in the care of the resident caretaker for a fixed period of time.

Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
80% of the price paid for the estate grounds.
Indoor and outdoor furnishings that are not destroyed upon removal.

Not Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
The construction permit required to build an estate.
Furnishings destroyed upon removal.
Housing exteriors.
Private chambers.
Company workshops and any registered airships in the workshop.

So , not a full refund.

[Jojoya]

Refunds exist for time? You're able to give people back the hours they spent camping and decorating?

Please explain.

Why would anyone need a refund for time they voluntarily chose to use to play a game?

No one needs a refund for any time spent decorating their virtual toy.

[Sotaris]

Am I the only one that will put Repair NPC in the house and use it everyday?
It is so weird to see people claiming they lost the house because they didnt receive notification

I use mine for summoning bell. I self-repair cause it last longer.

[kaynide]

Why would anyone need a refund for time they voluntarily chose to use to play a game?

No one needs a refund for any time spent decorating their virtual toy.

Likewise, no one need give up said virtual toy, which I believe is one of the points of multi home owners not wanting to give them up. I have 3, plus a sorta kinda 4th that I would happily give up if I had alternative options. I am basically drowning in gil, so for me to give up any houses, I need some incentive. (eg. Free trade to instanced with upgrades.. S in neighborhood gives me M instanced, or something)

People are upset that others have multiple homes (mostly obtained by legit means) and wish for the system to force these players to lose these homes. But simply issuing a refund is not fair.

Anyway, it’s all a moot point since SE is on record saying the current system is working as intended.

[Mykll]

So , not a full refund.

Nobody is saying you get a full 100% refund of items and gil.

You get most of your items and gil back. You do get a refund.

[Vahlnir]

You do not get everything back when your plot is demolished :

Here is the lodestone page :

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...3e7ccabefa9954

And i will quote :

Reclaiming Gil and Items
When an estate has been demolished, gil and certain furnishings will be placed in the care of the resident caretaker for a fixed period of time.

Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
80% of the price paid for the estate grounds.
Indoor and outdoor furnishings that are not destroyed upon removal.

Not Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
The construction permit required to build an estate.
Furnishings destroyed upon removal.
Housing exteriors.
Private chambers.
Company workshops and any registered airships in the workshop.

So , not a full refund.

Not everything, but pretty dang close to everything. The only things that really get destroyed now are interior and exterior fixtures. A way around losing those is to simply replace them with cheap items from the housing vendors. Obviously that's a bit more of a problem if someone has been gone for a long time and cannot return, but it is still an option.

[Jojoya]

Likewise, no one need give up said virtual toy, which I believe is one of the points of multi home owners not wanting to give them up. I have 3, plus a sorta kinda 4th that I would happily give up if I had alternative options. I am basically drowning in gil, so for me to give up any houses, I need some incentive. (eg. Free trade to instanced with upgrades.. S in neighborhood gives me M instanced, or something)

People are upset that others have multiple homes (mostly obtained by legit means) and wish for the system to force these players to lose these homes. But simply issuing a refund is not fair.

Anyway, it’s all a moot point since SE is on record saying the current system is working as intended.

There are rules for retaining the toy. If someone doesn't follow those rules then yes, they should have to give it up.

I don't have an issue with the houses covered by the 4.2 grandfather clause. I do want to see houses taken away from those who have abused the FC system to purchase multiple houses after the 4.2 rules change.

Do you have a link to where a member of the development team has recently said the system is working exactly as intended? Every time the question comes up, someone drags out a screenshot of a GM conversation where the GM states that taking a house away from a player is outside of the scope of their job duties. That's not the same as working as intended.

Not everything, but pretty dang close to everything. The only things that really get destroyed now are interior and exterior fixtures. A way around losing those is to simply replace them with cheap items from the housing vendors. Obviously that's a bit more of a problem if someone has been gone for a long time and cannot return, but it is still an option.

You get most fixtures back now as well. Usually the only thing missing is any food item that had charges consumed.