Gil sinks

[Liam_Harper]

If anything, gil sinks tend to harm the economy by adding to inflation. So any gil sink that applies to all players (glamour plates, market tax, etc.) should be avoided.

More raw gil in the economy causes inflation, because more people have gil and it loses value. Gil sinks reduce inflation because people have less gil overall and couldn't afford high prices, thus the market adjusts.

FF14's best gil sink has probably been how rarely they put raw gil into the economy. Where in games like WoW you had the mission table mess in WoD, vendoring items and gear in old raids and decent gold from quests all pumping huge sums of raw currency into the economy, ff14's items vendor for very little and quests barely pay teleport fees. The most you get is roulette bonuses, Eureka bunny fates and maps but it's not a massive sum. Our economy isn't really too bad.

I'd say their next most likely target for general gil sink will be leves. They already removed gil from Rowena's collectible turn-ins and Coffee Biscuit craft leves have become a popular source of extra gil.

[Deceptus]

More raw gil in the economy causes inflation, because more people have gil and it loses value. Gil sinks reduce inflation because people have less gil overall and couldn't afford high prices, thus the market adjusts.

FF14's best gil sink has probably been how rarely they put raw gil into the economy. Where in games like WoW you had the mission table mess in WoD, vendoring items and gear in old raids and decent gold from quests all pumping huge sums of raw currency into the economy, ff14's items vendor for very little and quests barely pay teleport fees. The most you get is roulette bonuses, Eureka bunny fates and maps but it's not a massive sum. Our economy isn't really too bad.

I'd say their next most likely target for general gil sink will be leves. They already removed gil from Rowena's collectible turn-ins and Coffee Biscuit craft leves have become a popular source of extra gil.

The biggest offender in the FFXIV economy is the rampat bot problem that SE refuses to address. It causes massive amounts of inflation.

[Jojoya]

The biggest offender in the FFXIV economy is the rampat bot problem that SE refuses to address. It causes massive amounts of inflation.

What inflation? Give some examples of all this inflation you claim is occurring.

All I see are prices on the MB well below what they had been on the same/equivalent items in prior expansions. That's not inflation. That's deflation.

[Ardeth]

What inflation? Give some examples of all this inflation you claim is occurring.

All I see are prices on the MB well below what they had been on the same/equivalent items in prior expansions. That's not inflation. That's deflation.

Yeah I don't get that either. It's hard for a non crafter to make money because nothing sells for anything. There's so many people undercutting you make almost nothing on anything. It's more pro buyer than pro seller. At least from my experience which is me being forever poor, but I've never once thought something was too much money outside of people who take advantage of the fashion report, but then again they are smart in that sense. I just don't like it because I'm poor basically. But that has nothing to do with them and everything to do with me wasting money on pointless things. Because as I said above you really don't need money in this game for really anything outside of teleports.

[Vahlnir]

Yeah I don't get that either. It's hard for a non crafter to make money because nothing sells for anything. There's so many people undercutting you make almost nothing on anything. It's more pro buyer than pro seller.

I'm a non crafter and gil is a non issue for me. You just have to know what you're doing.

[LisSquid]

The only time I run out of gil is when I'm doing housing. I decorate people's homes, sometimes paying for pieces out of pocket, and when I'm not doing that? It just sort of piles up. I can't imagine feeling strapped for gil the way some people say they are, and I don't even do endgame crafting.

[Katie_Kitty]

I'm confused. What is this thread in reference to?

[Vahlnir]

I'm confused. What is this thread in reference to?

Sinks made of gil, obviously.

But in all seriousness, gil sink mounts (more than one maybe?) were announced during the Live Letter. The only one we have solid confirmation of is the Namazu beast tribe mount, but it's completely gold and shoots gold coins out from it.

[Ardeth]

I'm a non crafter and gil is a non issue for me. You just have to know what you're doing.

I'm terrible at making money in this game. It doesn't matter what I do I always have like under 2 million all the time.

[Jojoya]

I'm terrible at making money in this game. It doesn't matter what I do I always have like under 2 million all the time.

Is your problem making it, or is the problem how you spend it?

Even if you're not actively selling things on the MB, the game is throwing gil your way for doing just about any content that isn't PvP or Gold Saucer.

Levequests reward gil - might as well use up all those leve allowances you're accumulating.

Treasure maps reward gil in addition to the loot drops.

Many of the challenge log entries reward gil.

Roulettes reward gil your first time plus there's the Adventurer in Need bonus.

Doman Enclave is worth 40k a week once you've completed all the quests (the 20k value of the items donated plus an additional 20k bonus).

Daily and weekly hunt bills reward gil (not to mention you can use any Allied or Centurio Seals earned to buy Aetheryte tickets so you can stop paying teleport fees).

Side quests reward gil. Beast tribe dailies reward gil.

None of the amounts are huge but they all add up as you do more content. Making gil isn't a problem as long as you're actively playing the game. I have to laugh those times I'm passing by the Limsa Aetheryte and see people complaining about being poor. Of course they're poor. They're sitting there doing nothing instead of doing something that will earn gil.

Now spending it wisely is a problem for many players. They don't pay attention to what they're buying. The only notice they've run out when they don't have enough for the next item they wanted to buy. You'll end up with a lot of gil if you do the content the rewards the item you want yourself instead of heading to the MB to buy for convenience.