Gil sinks

[Zfz]

I don't mind gil sinks, as long as they are targeted at people with too much gil.

We mustn't forget that the only reason why a gil sink is even considered, is because there are people with too much gil. It has nothing to do with the economy. If anything, gil sinks tend to harm the economy by adding to inflation. So any gil sink that applies to all players (glamour plates, market tax, etc.) should be avoided.

[Jojoya]

If anything, gil sinks tend to harm the economy by adding to inflation.

You have it backwards. Inflation isn't caused by a lack of currency in the system. It's caused by an excess of currency in the system.

The more currency a player has, the more they can spend on one item. That causes prices to increase as sellers take advantage of the greater wealth. If players had less currency, they wouldn't be able to spend as much and so sellers would need to reduce prices to find buyers.

For us to have less currency so prices stay lower, we need to have more things to purchase with gil.

[Liam_Harper]

If anything, gil sinks tend to harm the economy by adding to inflation. So any gil sink that applies to all players (glamour plates, market tax, etc.) should be avoided.

More raw gil in the economy causes inflation, because more people have gil and it loses value. Gil sinks reduce inflation because people have less gil overall and couldn't afford high prices, thus the market adjusts.

FF14's best gil sink has probably been how rarely they put raw gil into the economy. Where in games like WoW you had the mission table mess in WoD, vendoring items and gear in old raids and decent gold from quests all pumping huge sums of raw currency into the economy, ff14's items vendor for very little and quests barely pay teleport fees. The most you get is roulette bonuses, Eureka bunny fates and maps but it's not a massive sum. Our economy isn't really too bad.

I'd say their next most likely target for general gil sink will be leves. They already removed gil from Rowena's collectible turn-ins and Coffee Biscuit craft leves have become a popular source of extra gil.

[Deceptus]

More raw gil in the economy causes inflation, because more people have gil and it loses value. Gil sinks reduce inflation because people have less gil overall and couldn't afford high prices, thus the market adjusts.

FF14's best gil sink has probably been how rarely they put raw gil into the economy. Where in games like WoW you had the mission table mess in WoD, vendoring items and gear in old raids and decent gold from quests all pumping huge sums of raw currency into the economy, ff14's items vendor for very little and quests barely pay teleport fees. The most you get is roulette bonuses, Eureka bunny fates and maps but it's not a massive sum. Our economy isn't really too bad.

I'd say their next most likely target for general gil sink will be leves. They already removed gil from Rowena's collectible turn-ins and Coffee Biscuit craft leves have become a popular source of extra gil.

The biggest offender in the FFXIV economy is the rampat bot problem that SE refuses to address. It causes massive amounts of inflation.

[Jojoya]

The biggest offender in the FFXIV economy is the rampat bot problem that SE refuses to address. It causes massive amounts of inflation.

What inflation? Give some examples of all this inflation you claim is occurring.

All I see are prices on the MB well below what they had been on the same/equivalent items in prior expansions. That's not inflation. That's deflation.

[Ardeth]

What inflation? Give some examples of all this inflation you claim is occurring.

All I see are prices on the MB well below what they had been on the same/equivalent items in prior expansions. That's not inflation. That's deflation.

Yeah I don't get that either. It's hard for a non crafter to make money because nothing sells for anything. There's so many people undercutting you make almost nothing on anything. It's more pro buyer than pro seller. At least from my experience which is me being forever poor, but I've never once thought something was too much money outside of people who take advantage of the fashion report, but then again they are smart in that sense. I just don't like it because I'm poor basically. But that has nothing to do with them and everything to do with me wasting money on pointless things. Because as I said above you really don't need money in this game for really anything outside of teleports.

[Vahlnir]

Yeah I don't get that either. It's hard for a non crafter to make money because nothing sells for anything. There's so many people undercutting you make almost nothing on anything. It's more pro buyer than pro seller.

I'm a non crafter and gil is a non issue for me. You just have to know what you're doing.

[Ardeth]

I'm a non crafter and gil is a non issue for me. You just have to know what you're doing.

I'm terrible at making money in this game. It doesn't matter what I do I always have like under 2 million all the time.