Major changes needed for housing

[linayar]

I've said this probably 5 times now: housing does exist for everyone already. They're called apartments. You can easily own property RIGHT NOW. I know that you don't want an apartment but that doesn't stop them from existing and claiming that there isn't enough housing to go around is a complete lie. The issue is that you just don't want an apartment and want an easy method to getting a house, which is a massive slap in the face to those who already went through camping for plots. And then you also want to take away their hard work so you can have a plot? No. That's selfish and you don't deserve to profit off of someone else's efforts.

Like I said Square has two options: make apartments more appealing or punish those who are actively exploiting the system. If they choose to do neither, then I listed the only 3 options us as a community will have. If you don't want to camp or pay for an apartment or an FC then I guess housing will not be for you.

It really grinds my gears how people in this thread are so willing to just throw hundreds of people under the bus and take away their hard work because of a handful of people exploiting the system. It's an incredibly selfish mentality to have. I'm sorry that this housing system isn't to the specifications that some would like it to have, but it used to be worse. I get that camping sucks and that you have to compete with bots, but it's not hard to beat them either. Find a solution that doesn't involve stripping innocent players of their houses that they invested time and millions of gil into (My boyfriend and I have probably sunk well over 100-200m and dozens of hours into our designing our houses and I'll put up one hell of a fight to keep them because of it).

I don't want anything.

I just see that people don't want apartments and SE doesn't have any plan to improve apartments so people want to have apartments. SE wants to keep adding new residences and new wards (including apartments) and people still aren't satisfied because they don't want apartments and houses are limited.

So my suggestion is simply in regard to the housing supply. SE probably won't do it, but it's at least in line with what they're continuing to do. I'm content either way.

[Jojoya]

I just see that people don't want apartments and SE doesn't have any plan to improve apartments so people want to have apartments.

Except SE has talked about improving apartments. We just don't know if they've done any work on it and when we might see those improvements in game if they have.

Personally I suspect apartment improvements might have been put on the back burner while they focused on Island Sanctuary. Some seem to feel it will be a partial solution to housing demand. Instead I think it's going to make things worse as players expect to have their Island Sanctuary on top of housing.

[linayar]

Except SE has talked about improving apartments. We just don't know if they've done any work on it and when we might see those improvements in game if they have.

Maybe they have, but so far, it's always just been about new wards or new residences. We'll see if there is ever any change.

Personally I suspect apartment improvements might have been put on the back burner while they focused on Island Sanctuary. Some seem to feel it will be a partial solution to housing demand. Instead I think it's going to make things worse as players expect to have their Island Sanctuary on top of housing.

Speaking of that, why do people assume there will be some sort of housing related to Island Sanctuary? Was it said in an interview somewhere or is it similar to a feature in FFXI?

I didn't play FFXI, so the closest thing I could compare it to is probably WoW's garrison, except without tying it power progression or making any specific building.

[ItMe]

Speaking of that, why do people assume there will be some sort of housing related to Island Sanctuary? Was it said in an interview somewhere

It was not said in an interview.
As far as I can tell it is simply wishful thinking.

[Jojoya]

Speaking of that, why do people assume there will be some sort of housing related to Island Sanctuary? Was it said in an interview somewhere or is it similar to a feature in FFXI?

I didn't play FFXI, so the closest thing I could compare it to is probably WoW's garrison, except without tying it power progression or making any specific building.

It's people jumping to conclusions. YoshiP said in an interview that Island Sanctuary was inspired by Stardew Valley/Harvest Moon type games. Since those usually have a house the player can customize, some took it to mean that Island Sanctuary will have housing as well. SE doesn't gain anything by withholding that information if it was included so it's extremely unlikely housing is part of Island Sanctuary. There's always a chance they could keep reworking the concept in the future (just as they kept reworking the original Diadem concept into Eureka and finally Bozja) until housing becomes part of it but that would make little sense when SE already has two other housing systems (wards and apartments) in the game to utilize.

WoW Garrison is exactly what I think of when I review what was said about Island Sanctuary.
Personal instance? Check.
Able to grow things? Check.
Minions (companion pets) able to run around? Check.
Mostly solo content? Check.
Garrisons didn't have "animal raising" but the Barn was an option for medium plots that would yield hides and meat (why else would we raise animals?).

I do not want to see the Garrison disaster repeated here.