Major changes needed for housing

[Tommara]

It's not a mechanic, you can easily come check out the plot, hit it twice and then leave and try again later. Where does it say you have to stand there all day and camp? It doesn't, some just think they have to because of the hope that it will pop right away and that's how you waste your time and day.

I've seen plenty of people show up and leave only to come back hours later. That's literally how I lost my first plot.

You lost me. Why exactly is that not a mechanic?

[LianaThorne]

You lost me. Why exactly is that not a mechanic?

Because game mechanics are intentionally put into the game. The placard system (i.e. buying from the placard in general) is the system and mechanic. Camping for hours on end is an effect of that system, not an intentional mechanic. Like I said, people for some reason think the plot is gonna right away and dont bother to look into the devaluation timer (which can tell you how long a plot has been available for) and average pop times (usually between 8-10 hours after plot first pops). You can literally write down the plot number, go about your day, check on it every couple hours and closer to prime hours go back and do your camping.

Please point out where it says you HAVE to camp for x amount of hours. If it's written out in the official rules/guidelines for housing that you HAVE to wait for hours on end in front of a placard, I'll take back everything I've said.

[Drkdays]

But it could pop quickly. You never know. Nor can you know for certain how long a plot has been open. The only way to be certain you have a real chance at getting the plot is to...

Finish it with me...

If it's an unavoidable aspect of the game you must do for realistically serious chance at success it's a...

Finish with me...

Hearing people say you don't HAVE to camp for a house to me sounds the same as people saying you don't HAVE to do mechanics to beat a current content primal ex.

Like, ok but, you'll never beat it unless you do. And other players can't carry you to get a plot. It's just you against the world.

[LianaThorne]

But it could pop quickly. You never know. Only way to be certain you have a real chance at getting the plot is...

Finish it with me...

If it's an unavoidable aspect of the game you must do for success it's a...

Finish with me...

Again, if you did research you'd know the chances of it popping before the 8 hour mark are extremely slim. Like, extremely.

And again, you are choosing to take that chance in hoping for it to pop early, no one is forcing you to do so. You feeling some need to stand there all day is your own choice. Like I said, you can keep an eye on the plot and go back and visit it whenever you want so you can still be productive with your own day and avoid burning yourself out. It's not a hard concept. The only person making you stand there all day endlessly clicking is yourself. I gave you legit advice that homeowners use to make camping easier. Up to you to take it or continue using the time you have every day to stand at a placard. I can think of better things to do with mine while keeping an eye on a plot I'm interested in.

So while buying through the placard is unavoidable, standing there all day is completely avoidable. You can easily walk away and come back later and get the plot. It's done all the time.

[Drkdays]

So, where can I find out how long a plot has been open after it's demo'ed or abandoned?

Cause if I can't find that out after finding an open plot then how do I know if it's been 2 hours or 8??? :O

I see a hole in your logic.

[Awha]

So, where can I find out how long a plot has been open after it's demo'ed or abandoned?

Cause if I can't find that out after finding an open plot then how do I know if it's been 2 hours or 8??? :O

I see a hole in your logic.

How I got one of my plots i just checked every hour I was on gave it a few clicks and left. Sooner or later I got my plot. Never camped for any plot and have many over the years.

[Drkdays]

And? How many others were hunting the same plot? A single competitor who is willing to do that "unnecessary camping thing" guarantees your failure.

Sure, some people win the lottery by just casually snagging an open plot, but the odds are not in your favor.

It's laughable to suggest this method when players are openly using click macros to help. Indeed, if you've played for years then odds are you'll get lucky at some point, but wow, what a terrible way to try for a house in the near future.

[LianaThorne]

So, where can I find out how long a plot has been open after it's demo'ed or abandoned?

Cause if I can't find that out after finding an open plot then how do I know if it's been 2 hours or 8??? :O

I see a hole in your logic.

There are discords with people who can help you determine an estimation based off the devaluation timer and how much the plot currently costs. There are discords where people post plots that have popped and their times across all servers. I've said this already. I literally belonged to 4 at one point.

[Drkdays]

Sounds like camping. If you're dedicating yourself to multiple discords and sleuthing for any information you can get on houses it still counts as camping, if in a different way.

The hole I see is that no matter how you dress it up if you are using a substantial amount of time to get a plot, whether through the frustrating, but far more certain method of placard sitting for hours or hunting through discords and chats for times and estimates and tipoffs, counting on the good graces of others who are likely after the exact same thing as you (commendable if it works for you and not against you), it still requires a great deal of effort and luck.

And you have no choice. That's the only way it can be done. That's housing mechanics.

[Awha]

Sounds like camping. If you're dedicating yourself to multiple discords and sleuthing for any information you can get on houses it still counts as camping, if in a different way.

The hole I see is that no matter how you dress it up if you are using a substantial amount of time to get a plot, whether through the frustrating, but far more certain method of placard sitting for hours or hunting through discords and chats for times and estimates and tipoffs (commendable if it works for you and not against you) it still requires a great deal of effort and luck.

And you have no choice. That's the only way it can be done. That's housing mechanics.

How is what I did camping? I just check when I was already playing the game. I did not log in just to see if the house was open or anything. Even if I saw people I would get my clicks and move on. By mechanic we mean SE intended for people to stay up for 14 hours clicking, I highly doubt that was their intent but sadly they really do not understand western MMO players all that well.

I have won a plot with other present it is not a matter of how many clicks the only click that matters Is the one that gets the plot. If people want to camp go for it but to say it is intended to camp for hours does not seem true. It may foster that mindset due to the timers and limits but meh that is a player choice.