The decline of the community

[Kaurhz]

It is the same take just worded differently, I still stand by my other post just came off as more abrasive then it needed to be. I still think children that willfully try to get adults punished for actions out of spite should face harsher punishments then what they get now.



See that would work if you were told what you did wrong in this game. You are not so reporting people in this game is largely rooted in spite.

Except you can request this data by doing a data subject access request, this much is specified within their Privacy Policy if you look hard enough. They will supply you with the direct log which resulted in your warning/suspension. In fact, the only thing I disagree with in terms of handling here is that upon being reported the GMs should supply you with the email to do such and explain the process.

Reporting people out of spite isn't something I agree with, no, obviously. But if I feel someone has deliberately gone out of their way to not follow the terms of service, be it slurs, insults, and other things of a similar nature which may encompass or suffice for harassment then I'm going to report you, simple as. It prevents you from doing that exact same behavior with someone else.

If I had to resort to the blocklist like you're suggesting for potential infractions then my blacklist would cease to have space on it. Call it being soft, foul, or whatever. People should be held accountable for their actions. I can also at the very least say people crying profanity filter when they got a suspension or a warning more than likely are only telling part of the story in order to justify their own actions.

[Awha]

Except you can request this data by doing a data subject access request, this much is specified within their Privacy Policy if you look hard enough. They will supply you with the direct log which resulted in your warning/suspension. In fact, the only thing I disagree with in terms of handling here is that upon being reported the GMs should supply you with the email to do such and explain the process.

Reporting people out of spite isn't something I agree with, no, obviously. But if I feel someone has deliberately gone out of their way to not follow the terms of service, be it slurs, insults, and other things of a similar nature which may encompass or suffice for harassment then I'm going to report you, simple as. It prevents you from doing that exact same behavior with someone else.

If I had to resort to the blocklist like you're suggesting for potential infractions then my blacklist would cease to have space on it. Call it being soft, foul, or whatever. People should be held accountable for their actions. I can also at the very least say people crying profanity filter when they got a suspension or a warning more than likely are only telling part of the story in order to justify their own actions.

I will take your word that you can request such information, though why a GM just does not tell you on the spot is beyond me. Though some do. That being said most do not read the ToS, let alone Privacy Policy. Though since I have not read it, I have a strong suspicion that it does not carry over 100% to in-game interactions and data.

In the end you are free to report whoever you want for whatever you want that is fine. I have been reported and I own up my strikes. That being said I just have a personal issue with how vague the ToS is, and how the game offers tools to avoid certain things yet one can still be reported despite those tools in place. Though you probably are largely right that more to the story, when I was reported for my language the person in question did ask me to stop in party chat but I just ignored them and moved, still dropped the f bomb every so often it was not aimed towards anyone. Though I most likely got a strike due to the fact they asked me to stop and I did not.

Still personally that was a petty reason to report someone cause if they just add their filter on all they would see is ???? no harm no foul. Though they are free to report cause I did break the ToS no matter how silly said ToS can be. Though I do think being held accountable is a two way street, people should also be accountable for their own safety and sanity. If a game provides you tools to avoid certain things you may not want to see then they should be using said feature end of story, and if they were using said feature it should not matter if people are cursing. Now if people try to bypass the filter that is a different story.

Personally I do think it is soft, across every MMO I have played I have had to blacklist one person and that was a guild mats GF that was annoying in raids and I just wanted to pretend they did not exist.

[Kaurhz]

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Ironically enough, they themselves probably aren't aware, as neither are many people in the community It should at the very least be within their guideline to supply such information to people when they're sanctioned.. I can partially understand why they themselves don't directly supplement the logs- Certain information needs to be redacted as they're potentially exchanging information pertaining to another character with you that they otherwise probably shouldn't. People have done this before and had the respective logs sent to them- It's actually on Reddit.

I get your grievance at least, but in the same vein, the implementation of a filter should not preclude one from being reported and sanctioned accordingly. I hate to be hubristic about it, but if I've learned anything through my life it is that people will typically only tell part of the story, and the part of the story that paints them as the victim. I don't agree that the use of a single non-derogatory profanity should be enough to warrant a sanction, or even being reported for that matter, but I do believe excessive use of profanities should warrant it. But you yourself have exemplified this- You were asked to stop and potentially politely too, yet you didn't oblige and still went on the crusade it would seem.

Everyone is held accountable for their actions to varying degrees- For example; It just happens that someone stepping into a mature environment whilst not of appropriate age has much less of a sanction than if someone within the environment were to do inappropriate things with said person. But then I still hold the opinion of- Just don't publicly advertise mature scenes to a potentially non-mature audience. You save those with the overabundance of curiosity from putting themselves in harm's way- Just as you save people in the environment from doing something they otherwise absolutely wouldn't. A profanity filter is just an additional tool so that you don't have to expose yourself to profanities. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be reported for it by someone else though, as petty as it might be. But then we get into the scope of differentiating profanities from slurs, and insults, and arguably many people that get reported for it, arguably probably fall into slurs and insults more than pofanities.