The decline of the community

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You seem knowledgeable about these NSFW mods. However, Yoshi P did talk about it and explicitly asked people not to use these degenerate mods. This filth must be eradicated from the game.

So are forum trolls but they are eternal. What can you do.

[WoW]

So are forum trolls but they are eternal. What can you do.

There are no trolls on these forums. The mods are doing their job making sure they don't exist.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

There are no trolls on these forums. The mods are doing their job making sure they don't exist.

Yeah I don't think so. Unfortunately.

[Vahlnir]

There are no trolls on these forums. The mods are doing their job making sure they don't exist.

Says the troll.

[Shin96]

This filth must be eradicated from the game.

It is not in the game and eradicating it would be a worthless pursuit. There is no way you can control people to such an extend unless you monitor their computer, in which case that's illegal and Yoshi P acknowledged that.

[Kyrj]

NSFW mods have been in circulation since 1.0. When a new game comes out you can almost guarantee the first thing people will try to mod is nudity.

There can be any number of reasons why Yoshi P didn't say anything against it.

But I still find the community overall to be friendly, kind and helpful and try to bring as much helpfulness as I can. I feel the "degeneracy" as you call it is a separate issue.

Where's my Rayman nude mod?

[Saefinn]

Where's my Rayman nude mod?

Hey, I'm not doing your dirty work for you, you'll have to find it yourself. If not, make one.

That said, a part of me wouldn't even be surprised. The internet being what it is.

[Ardeth]

It's definitely gotten more toxic, but it was already toxic so in terms of people erping that's always been there. Personally rp in general creeps me out.

I find it kinda funny that SE has tightened the noose around negative behavior and all it's done is made people more passive aggressive. Don't get me wrong I had a laughably bad MSQ roulette run yesterday where the healers would not heal, but I never outright said anything to them. I really really wanted to, but I feel like something is going to give and it's probably going to get worse in terms of how SE handles it. And at the end of the day I don't want to get banned because some random sucks at the game. Like seriously I get that people want healers to dps and that's fine, but they really should make sure they get that healing part down first as that kinda why they are there in the first place. Sorry I'm still ranting about this, but a normal group doesn't wipe 3 times doing CASTRUM!

[Jeeqbit]

The communtiy, if anything, used to be more toxic and is less so now because of how much it's grown and appealed to more casual players who are polite.

ERP has always been a thing and if you wanted to avoid any chance of seeing a reference to it you'd have to keep out of main areas. ERP has been a thing in many MMOs so it's natural people with this interest would come to a growing MMO.

The FFXIV community used to be absolutely amazing.
Helpful patient players, wholesome players, players that were invested in the game who knew the story, the lore etc. It wasn't perfect but generally people wanted to interact with one another and had fun doing so.

I see this in the Novice Network, cities, dungeons and discord regularly. This hasn't changed and if anything has grown.

Allowing cross server gameplay = why bother interacting with anyone in a wholesome way when you're probably never gonna see them again.

That was a concern when 2.0 was developed with the cross-world Duty Finder matching system, but it was necessary so people could beat the dungeons and other content.

I would argue that since then, cross-world party finder and world visit have caused people from different worlds to interact more and I come across people I recognise from other worlds in content quite often.

Expanding the free trial = more people not worried about the consequences of their actions

This is a fair point. Anybody in a level 60 or lower area could be young and not old enough to pay a subscription, so they are less likely to be an adult about things.

[Kacho_Nacho]

The community, if anything, used to be more toxic and is less so now because of how much it's grown and appealed to more casual players who are polite.

ERP has always been a thing and if you wanted to avoid any chance of seeing a reference to it you'd have to keep out of main areas. ERP has been a thing in many MMOs so it's natural people with this interest would come to a growing MMO.

I see this in the Novice Network, cities, dungeons and discord regularly. This hasn't changed and if anything has grown.

That was a concern when 2.0 was developed with the cross-world Duty Finder matching system, but it was necessary so people could beat the dungeons and other content.

I would argue that since then, cross-world party finder and world visit have caused people from different worlds to interact more and I come across people I recognise from other worlds in content quite often.

This is a fair point. Anybody in a level 60 or lower area could be young and not old enough to pay a subscription, so they are less likely to be an adult about things.

I agree with this. I see far less toxicity than what the forums gives one to believe. Furthermore, I see less open toxicity than when I first began in the ARR era.

Hell, I had a tank actually apologize to me this past week when they did a wall to wall pull without checking if I could keep up with the healing on a synched 50 dungeon first.

As far as ERP, it's been in every MMO I've played in and we are talking even back when "the web" was just Compuserve and America Online to most people. Just set your boundaries and move on.

The last two pages here are only spam, no discussion, hence post deleted, no point in this.

I've looked over the thread and saw no spam. Perhaps you meant the handful of trolling posts or the fact that the forum was disagreeing with you.

Oh well. I'm certain the topic will be brought up again.