The trust system is great, I hope it gets expanded

[Ralph2449]

If they make trust party performing way too good, DFs would die.

Highly doubtful, the whole point of expanded trusts would be that they are an option but not only slower due to npcs doing the bare minimum, it also means you won’t be skipping phases, your performance would also need to be above average to get everything through.

And we both know that some people are obsessed over time spend so they will always prefer quick roflstomp with 8 players where more than half overperform/over gear so they can skip phases and do things quickly, expanded trusts would be nothing more than an additional option that is slower, require more personal effort than a group and is there just for people who either don’t have time to find people or just don’t want to deal with people.

Would some people that currently use df/pf prefer trusts and start avoiding df/pf? Yes, they will because right now they are FORCED to deal with people even though they don’t like it so of course they will jump at the opportunity to avoid doing something they dislike.

And I am against forcing people into things they don’t like simply because it is the only way for them to get the reward they want.

[Daibunnie]

You do know that people can see that you just quoted him out of context, right?

Nah, still within context.

And I am against forcing people into things they don’t like simply because it is the only way for them to get the reward they want.

If someone don't like challenging group content and the gear the content rewards them isn't necessary, why exactly do they need those rewards?

[Arzalis]

Nah, still within context.



If someone don't like challenging group content and the gear the content rewards them isn't necessary, why exactly do they need those rewards?

This argument kind of went out the window the moment SE decided dyeable AF armor was going to be locked behind an EX trial. It wasn't even better than other gear at the time. You're doing the trial just for the ability to dye gear.

They also do it for raid gear too.

Honestly, trusts are fun and I hope they expand them to at least include MSQ trials but I would be fine if they included them in harder content too. Playing with other players will always be faster, but sometimes I do prefer to sit down and not play with other players for various reasons(whether I'm expecting a phone call and don't want to afk in the middle of a dungeon, not feeling sociable, whatever.) There's also the story aspect. It felt cool to go through each dungeon the first time with the characters who were supposed to be right there with me.

[Daibunnie]

This argument kind of went out the window the moment SE decided dyeable AF armor was going to be locked behind an EX trial. It wasn't even better than other gear at the time. You're doing the trial just for the ability to dye gear.

What argument are you even talking about? Dyeable af gear isn't required nor needed for normal content progression. If you want the rewards from harder content, regardless of it being for BiS or just glamour, earn it.

[Axxion]

What argument are you even talking about? Dyeable af gear isn't required nor needed for normal content progression. If you want the rewards from harder content, regardless of it being for BiS or just glamour, earn it.

i think the memoria misera.