Get rid of arrows? *hide*

[Kiote]

50k is not expensive for arrows.. That 50gil/arrow.

The fundamental Idea behind consumable ammo is to make the user think "How many arrows do I need to use to be effective." rather than "How many times can I shoot this one enemy."

If Archer's had infinite arrows, we would have the same problem with Arcs that we have with THMs right now. They would just mindlessly pump out as much damage as possible, ruining enmity control, and killing themself and others in the process.

More Importantly, the DMG increase between level 1 arrows and level 50 arrows is inconsequential in all situation except Boss fights. A smart archer would not be using Cobalt arrows in a grind party. That's beyond dumb.

[Spider-Dan]

If gil is your issue go farm the mats.

Unless the most profitable activity you can think of is crafting arrows, you're better off farming something else (karakul fleece, cobalt ore, hog hide, whatever) and selling that.

You do not somehow save more money by farming arrow mats and crafting them up. Farming is farming, and (when dealing with sellable items) you should always be farming the most profitable item you can.

[Spider-Dan]

If Archer's had infinite arrows, we would have the same problem with Arcs that we have with THMs right now. They would just mindlessly pump out as much damage as possible, ruining enmity control, and killing themself and others in the process.

I feel quite comfortable in saying that there is no ARC, anywhere, who thinks, "I'd better slow down because arrows are too expensive and I'm running low."

The real distinction between ARC and other DDs is not the damage output; even in 1.19, when ARC sucked and did way less damage than everyone else, they still had to pay-to-play. The difference between ARC and the other DoW is that ARC pays to be able to deal physical damage at range. (THM can do something similar, but they are constrained by MP management.)

More Importantly, the DMG increase between level 1 arrows and level 50 arrows is inconsequential in all situation except Boss fights. A smart archer would not be using Cobalt arrows in a grind party. That's beyond dumb.

The damage between different arrows is actually pretty noticeable now. You could argue that anything except instanced content is inconsequential, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but there you have it.

[Aku]

You had the right idea hiding...

[DoctorMog]

Go farm the items, make them yourself.

If that is too much for you because you can't be bothered to do all that work;

Remind yourself why they cost 50k (See above sentence)

because they take work to make, and time = money.

Otherwise, you can buy warped arrows for 200 gil a stack.

[Agoven]

I like all kinds of arrows...and we should buy arrows!!!

But just between you and I...I've never hardly bought arrows in my life. Please it's an MMO learn to play with others! That's what LS are for. And you totally have the ability to make the arrows yourself.

If anything we should have more types of arrows for specific types of enemies. Arrows for flying creatures...elemental arrows...stat impairment arrows...They were headed the right direction when there were arrows that did more then piercing damage. We need many types of arrows.

I do suggest there be a generic low arrow that has INFINITY amount like the lowest level arrow. All other arrows should be more special and cost.

[Kinseykinz]

I do suggest there be a generic low arrow that has INFINITY amount like the lowest level arrow. All other arrows should be more special and cost.

This I could get on board with (although i think even a warped arrow should slightly outdamage 'free, unlimited' arrow.)

[Halvaard_Vidan]

If you think cobalt arrows are overpriced, I recommend pricing the materials. For example, typical mat prices on Fabul:

cobalt ingots: 7k x99 = 693k
chocobo feathers: 4k x99 = 396k
rosewood branch: 3k x99 = 297k
total cost = 1386k for 33 stacks = 42k/stack

That's if you are manually babysitting each synth. If you are mashing enter, you can expect a 10-15% net fail rate at R50, putting you at 1386k for ~29 stacks, or 47.8k/stack. (I imagine Hasty Hand would be even worse.)

Many arrow producers are selling arrows below cost.

While this may technicaly be true, I'd say the majority of Crafters are also Gatherers.
So any Carpenter is also likely either a Botanist or Miner, in which case cut the cost down by half.

[Biggs]

Makes you wonder what ever happened to the arrow designs and ideas they had for archer before the game was released that never materialized. Anyone remember that? Before the beta, on the official site about the game, it said archer would have a multitude of different types of arrows that were better at killing different types of mobs, with pictures of crazy looking barbed and pronged arrows. What gives SE?

I like the arrow system as it is now, but i agree they should add quivers like they had in XI. So 10 stacks of 999 as one item that you activate to get a stack of 999 from.

[Mrfox0707]

Ya know, I remember in the old FF titles a player would buy an arrow equip it and the one arrow could be used over and over again. Then you could find/buy better arrows to equip to do more dmg. That might be a good way to change arrows to.