Major changes needed for housing

[Awha]

You underestimate just how easy and natural it is to get Company Credits even playing infrequently and just doing routine activities like roulettes, and questing. The challenge isn't with how difficult it is, but rather how impractical it is for someone with 30 houses to sustain this across the course of a month and all subsequent months without it taking significant time out of their gameplay on their main character or tole on them in the long run. How practical or impractical it is for smaller and less active FCs is entirely deterministic on how steep this cost would be.

What is woefully unfair is trying to justify the use of having several houses to yourself via either being grandfathered in or circumventing their restrictions for purchasing housing by having several accounts, when housing is as it stands already completely scarce on most servers.

Again, just overall failure to give it proper care, attention, or use, be it through proactively doing workshops, gardening, or through decoration as a private space. There's nothing worse than someone that has a house that by any definition of the term is not utilized whatsoever. People don't have a house for a combination of issues, be it lack of availability in genuine circumstances, or not having sufficient Gil to be able to purchase the house in the first place, or their desired plot being unavailable. Equally, people having multiple houses only exacerbates these issues much further, so it is expected that people with multiple houses will be painted as villains.

Still that is pigeon holding FC's to certain tasks they may not get enjoyment out of just to maintain their FC house cause we have to punish those that would probably barely free up 1% of total available plots.

Also the restriction put in place by SE were lifted by them they just never updated the rules. No tricks or exploits are required to amass multiple FC plots. Trust me I get the idea behind getting plots away from people with many plots but as someone who use to play feast for hour prior to the change regarding chat I am leery of pushing forward any system that makes it harder for legit smaller FC's or pigeon hold them into a certain amount of in game tasks that would allow them to keep their FC instead of just letting them play the content they want.

Bandaid fixes are nice in terms of providing a feel good response to the player base but what we really need is a more tangible fix.

Personally I would give up all my plots if they tied WC to Grand companies and if they allow plots to have more gardening plots no matter the size. Since I mainly have more then one plot for mass crossbreeding and and voyages. Know it does not solve the core of this issue but at least it does not pass the buck to the average smaller FC just to punish a minority of the player base.q

[Jojoya]

Or SE actually fixes the system by increasing supply to meet demand so every player who wants a house can get one, no fighting over timers, no competing against other players.

Other MMOs with housing have no problem giving all their interested players access to housing.

Why does SE continue to shortchange its player base?

[Vahlnir]

Or SE actually fixes the system by increasing supply to meet demand so every player who wants a house can get one, no fighting over timers, no competing against other players.

Other MMOs with housing have no problem giving all their interested players access to housing.

Why does SE continue to shortchange its player base?

It would require giving FF XIV the budget it so desperately needs, and we can't have that. Smaller budget for a big payout. It's smart from a business perspective but it sucks for those paying for a product when we know it could be so much more than it is.

[Awha]

Or SE actually fixes the system by increasing supply to meet demand so every player who wants a house can get one, no fighting over timers, no competing against other players.

Other MMOs with housing have no problem giving all their interested players access to housing.

Why does SE continue to shortchange its player base?

Sadly they from a budget POV it makes little sense to pour larger sums of money in FFXIV if the roi does not create an large enough growth in revenue. Way they see it FFXIV is growing and marketing is a better use of budget instead of upgrading niche feature sets.

[linayar]

I mean if they took away the FC aspect I would personally just buy accounts and just transfer them to characters that way. I mean I had 24 wow accounts what is another 8 FFXIV accounts.

If you're willing to maintain multiple accounts just to have multiple houses, that's not a bad thing for SE. That's all the more reason for SE to "encourage" this by restricting housing per account.

[Awha]

If you're willing to maintain multiple accounts just to have multiple houses, that's not a bad thing for SE. That's all the more reason for SE to "encourage" this by restricting housing per account.

Thing is they had the 1 personal and 1 fc restriction in place but they lifted it just did not update the rules. Also does not solve the problem and people would still cry foul.

What exactly did they lift? The personal part or FC part or both? As far as I'm aware, you still can only own 1 house on one world per account.

Forum post count reached. Though I believe it was the FC part that was lifted cause in SB before my break I was unable to own multiple FC plots but after I came back I was able to get multiple FC plots without issue no error message or anything.

Given how quick they fixed the befriending alts if this was not intended then I think it would have been hot fixed since at one point it was not allowed on my server.

[linayar]

Thing is they had the 1 personal and 1 fc restriction in place but they lifted it just did not update the rules. Also does not solve the problem and people would still cry foul.

What exactly did they lift? The personal part or FC part or both? As far as I'm aware, you still can only own 1 house on one world per account.

[LaylaTsarra]

What exactly did they lift? The personal part or FC part or both? As far as I'm aware, you still can only own 1 house on one world per account.

It's my understanding the limitation works on some servers but not on others. Dunno if it's the code is so bad for tracking that on some servers and not on others but I don't think they've changed the rules at all. It's more a policy of policing it that is the issue. The one personal per server definitely works.

[linayar]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

Ok, according to the rules stated in the above link, while you can only "own" one FC plot per world per service account, the actual limitation seems to be on you purchasing a plot. You can technically have two characters on two different FCs with two different houses.

The question is whether you can then be given ownership (either automatically or manually) to both FCs. Does anyone know if there is a service account limitation on owning an FC? If you can own both FCs, then there is no actual limitation stated in the link above on owning both houses as well since you did not need to purchase either plot.

[LaylaTsarra]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

This is the intent and I think it's pretty clearly stated. The issue is it's implementation which isn't working for FC;s and it appears they are unable to fix it.

"Each service account may only possess one free company estate hall and one private estate per World.

Once this limit has been reached, it is not possible to purchase further plots of land in the same World on that service account, including separate characters on the same World."